Hook sizes

Admau1 · Post by **Admau1** » Thu Oct 13 2016 14:10

Hi All, would reducing hook size on big lures have any negative affect on hook ups ?

Steve Dennington · Post by **Steve Dennington** » Thu Oct 13 2016 14:47

Depends on the lure. Soft baits and thin bodied hardbaits you can downsize on, but wider bodied baits like Mantas need a pretty wide gape hook to be effective.

Paul_the_piker · Post by **Paul_the_piker** » Thu Oct 13 2016 14:50

Yes!!!

Admau1 · Post by **Admau1** » Thu Oct 20 2016 20:15

Rapala super shad rap has size 3/0 hooks ?
Do you not think that's to big ?

markd · Post by **markd** » Thu Oct 20 2016 21:31

Admau1 wrote:
Rapala super shad rap has size 3/0 hooks ?
Do you not think that's to big ?

Aren't they 2/0's on ssr's?

Admau1 · Post by **Admau1** » Fri Oct 21 2016 08:12

markd wrote:
Admau1 wrote:
Rapala super shad rap has size 3/0 hooks ?
Do you not think that's to big ?
Aren't they 2/0's on ssr's?

One Rapala website says 3/0 and another states 2/0 ??
Anyway they seem over large to me ! I was just wandering if changing to say a 1/0 would make a big difference to hook ups ????

Paul_the_piker · Post by **Paul_the_piker** » Fri Oct 21 2016 08:23

Admau1 wrote:
markd wrote:
Admau1 wrote:
Rapala super shad rap has size 3/0 hooks ?
Do you not think that's to big ?
Aren't they 2/0's on ssr's?
One Rapala website says 3/0 and another states 2/0 ??
Anyway they seem over large to me ! I was just wandering if changing to say a 1/0 would make a big difference to hook ups ????

Yes!!

I have a very raw recent memory of a (VERY) BIG pike coming off at the side of the boat, quite possibly because I had 1/0s (with the barbs crushed to comply with the fishery rules) on a lure that originally comes fitted with 3/0s...

Admau1 · Post by **Admau1** » Fri Oct 21 2016 09:04

Hi Paul, the Super shad rap hooks seem VERY LARGE for a lure that is 140 cm?

davelumb · Post by **davelumb** » Fri Oct 21 2016 09:07

Admau1 wrote:
Hi Paul, the Super shad rap hooks seem VERY LARGE for a lure that is 140 cm?

No they don't. If it was a minnowbait then, yes, but look at the depth of the body.

Paul_the_piker · Post by **Paul_the_piker** » Fri Oct 21 2016 10:16

davelumb wrote:
Admau1 wrote:
Hi Paul, the Super shad rap hooks seem VERY LARGE for a lure that is 140 cm?
No they don't. If it was a minnowbait then, yes, but look at the depth of the body.

If you won't listen to me, then listen to Dave who is far more experienced and knowledgeable with regards to lures than I, or do what I did and then change them when it's too late...

Esoxuk · Post by **Esoxuk** » Fri Oct 21 2016 11:39

Admau1 wrote:
Hi Paul, the Super shad rap hooks seem VERY LARGE for a lure that is 140 cm?

Change them for a lighter gauge black hook of the same size and they don't look anywhere near as big... the standard thick plated hooks do look OTT

Admau1 · Post by **Admau1** » Fri Oct 21 2016 13:21

davelumb wrote:
Admau1 wrote:
Hi Paul, the Super shad rap hooks seem VERY LARGE for a lure that is 140 cm?
No they don't. If it was a minnowbait then, yes, but look at the depth of the body.

Ok !

Admau1 · Post by **Admau1** » Fri Oct 21 2016 13:23

Paul_the_piker wrote:
davelumb wrote:
Admau1 wrote:
Hi Paul, the Super shad rap hooks seem VERY LARGE for a lure that is 140 cm?
No they don't. If it was a minnowbait then, yes, but look at the depth of the body.
If you won't listen to me, then listen to Dave who is far more experienced and knowledgeable with regards to lures than I, or do what I did and then change them when it's too late...

Ok Paul ! Thanks

markd · Post by **markd** » Fri Oct 21 2016 22:14

Esoxuk wrote:
Admau1 wrote:
Hi Paul, the Super shad rap hooks seem VERY LARGE for a lure that is 140 cm?
Change them for a lighter gauge black hook of the same size and they don't look anywhere near as big... the standard thick plated hooks do look OTT

The original hooks are a bit heavy duty, i've got the 2/0 eagle claws that Mr. Lumb sells on mine and reckon they're about right.

Bear in mind that one manufacturers hook size can be a size or more different to anothers. The original ssr hooks (vmc's?) may well be 'officially' 3/0's but the 2/0 eagle claws are physically the same size just a bit lighter in the wire.

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