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squirrely burts
I just found these in my garage, two of them I have tried weighting and one was left alone. I have caught fook all on them. Before I throw them back in the old tackle box for another 10 years I was going to have another try with them. Could anyone enlighten me on how to weight them or is it a secret. I had one I caught on, on Rutland but the fish knackered it and it just filled with water after one fish!!
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Re: squirrely burts
Loads of ways to weight them. Most work. Even the 'wrong' ways!
But if you must have the 'right' way...
Slowly sinking slightly nose down.
But if you must have the 'right' way...
Slowly sinking slightly nose down.
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davelumb wrote:I drilled holes and added lead shot, is this the correct way?Loads of ways to weight them. Most work. Even the 'wrong' ways!
But if you must have the 'right' way...
Slowly sinking slightly nose down.
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Alan_dalton wrote:Yes.I drilled holes and added lead shot, is this the correct way?
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davelumb wrote:ThanksAlan_dalton wrote:Yes.I drilled holes and added lead shot, is this the correct way?
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Alan there crap lures, send them to me for burning
Like to weigh mine a bit heavier gets tail working on the drop, fish them with long pulls and pauses, helps if your in the boat!
Like to weigh mine a bit heavier gets tail working on the drop, fish them with long pulls and pauses, helps if your in the boat!
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Re: squirrely burts
Weighting a bunch up myself this weekend. I use 4 different weightings. Fast sink at 3' per second nose first (110g) . Slow sink at 1' per second nose first (92g). Suspending (can be made to rise slowly by swapping 8" tail for 6" tail). Standard weighted. I don't use the unweighted ones as I find Suicks better for the same situations.
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Follow lumbys advice on his site and seal them with thick blob of epoxy i brush some epoxy around all hook eyes just to make sure It doesnt take water in.Anybody knows where to buy them in uk now?want a few more
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Ivor1980 wrote:http://www.franglaisfishing.com/ffstore ... hp?cat=230Follow lumbys advice on his site and seal them with thick blob of epoxy i brush some epoxy around all hook eyes just to make sure It doesnt take water in.Anybody knows where to buy them in uk now?want a few more
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How much??? - Yikes!
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Steve Dennington wrote:£20 offt for a lure you need to drill holes in, get them second hand on here sometimes IvorIvor1980 wrote:http://www.franglaisfishing.com/ffstore ... hp?cat=230Follow lumbys advice on his site and seal them with thick blob of epoxy i brush some epoxy around all hook eyes just to make sure It doesnt take water in.Anybody knows where to buy them in uk now?want a few more
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andrew_nagel wrote:Yep, they've gone up a bit in recent years. You can't import them yourself for less.How much??? - Yikes!
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I just got a batch brought over from the US by a colleague. Worked out around £7.30 each. Going out there myself in a few weeks and will not come back empty handed.
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21 quid ,Ill hunt for the second hand ones. I have some handmade ones too,very similar to burts.
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I prefer mine weighted front heavy so they sit tail up in the water, they are all tank tested with a trace so that the tip of the tail is sat in the viscous of the water. If weighted like this then one long pull takes them down about 4ft at a time and they work a treat.
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Just had a play in the bath, got them all sinking at different rates just got to seal them them try them, then chuck them back in the loft for another ten years!
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andrew_nagel wrote:That's bloody cheap. Direct from Drifter they're $16.99, or more if you want particular patterns. Factor in shipping, VAT, and then the ransom demand from Parcel Force and you're talking about the same price as FranglaisI just got a batch brought over from the US by a colleague. Worked out around £7.30 each. Going out there myself in a few weeks and will not come back empty handed.
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They look an absolute doddle to make yourself. I might have a go when I get some time to spare. Are they hardwood, balsa or plastic? I haven't used them myself but I can remember they used to seem to be one of the most effective lures on Blith when I fished there.
How about trying something along these lines and then adding the 'Squirrel'? (BTW Check out this fellas other videos on the Tube. Some belting home made tackle there. )
How about trying something along these lines and then adding the 'Squirrel'? (BTW Check out this fellas other videos on the Tube. Some belting home made tackle there. )
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My first "squirrely burt" its a bit bigger then original and has more wiggle and weighs about 100 grams.This is just before refinishing.Ita bigger and squirrely version of tr twitcher 16 cm wooden body plus tail.
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ChristopherH wrote:I think they're plastic, sectioned inside too I believe.They look an absolute doddle to make yourself. I might have a go when I get some time to spare. Are they hardwood, balsa or plastic? I haven't used them myself but I can remember they used to seem to be one of the most effective lures on Blith when I fished there.
How about trying something along these lines and then adding the 'Squirrel'? (BTW Check out this fellas other videos on the Tube. Some belting home made tackle there. )
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They are sectioned abs bodies so are almost indestructable and will rattle with shot inside(if you like it) but prone to take water in,unless sealed properly.
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Ivor1980 wrote:The hangers are sealed pretty well on most recent ones. The weighting is still as random as ever though...They are sectioned abs bodies so are almost indestructable and will rattle with shot inside(if you like it) but prone to take water in,unless sealed properly.
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I guess as long as the action is similar it doesn't matter too much what they are constructed from?I think they're plastic, sectioned inside too I believe.
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ChristopherH wrote:Would imagine they could be recreated fairly easily Chris, though whether the chambers seriously affect the action, I couldn't say.I guess as long as the action is similar it doesn't matter too much what they are constructed from?I think they're plastic, sectioned inside too I believe.
Though for me the great enigma is that they sometimes don't have any action, apart from the tail movement.
If it wasn't for mates telling me they got fish on them I'd have binned them long ago!
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wooden ones have way more "action" but dont rattle.
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Ivor1980 wrote:Is that shop bought or home made wooden ones Ivor?wooden ones have way more "action" but dont rattle.
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Home made mate.
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Ivor1980 wrote:Interesting...Home made mate.
Easy to make or tricky? And did you make them any different than shop ones in order to get a better action?
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Rattles are very easily to added to hardwood/balsa lures. (Yes I know Balsa is technically a hardwood. )
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Re: squirrely burts
Are Burts not just a simple stick-bait? (I'm assuming the Burt came first then someone added the squirrel tail?)