What went wrong
-
- Stickleback
- Posts: 6
- Joined: Thu Dec 29 2016 23:18
What went wrong
Hi, had a good days piking on a local water that's hard to catch on, had a jack then a 17lb, was well happy till I got another run, struck and felt the weight of a good fish then nothing. On reeling in found my line had either been bitten clean through or maybe got caught on a sharp rock, was gutted that I left a set of trebles in a fish. It was a clean cut of the 60 lb braid, I'm thinking perhaps the trace got tangled in the mainline during the cast. How can I prevent that happing? I use a running ledger set up, 24inch wire trace and 60lb braid and feather the line before it hits the water. If the braid did get cut by a sharp rock then should I use nylon instead of braid?
- Jason Skilton
- Zander
- Posts: 7015
- Joined: Wed Sep 07 2011 05:00
- Location: East Anglia
Re: What went wrong
Normally with a bite off its not clean, is there zebra mussels present?
- alan behenna
- Barbel
- Posts: 3767
- Joined: Mon Sep 14 2015 15:45
- Location: Where Sheep are Nervous.
Re: What went wrong
If it's not happened to you before, put it down to (?), because you ain't certain what "did" occur this time.
First place I'd go is to put a running ledger boom on your rig, thereby maintaining your style, but holding the trace off the line somewhat.
If you suspect trace might have tangled with main line on impact, then obviously recast.
First place I'd go is to put a running ledger boom on your rig, thereby maintaining your style, but holding the trace off the line somewhat.
If you suspect trace might have tangled with main line on impact, then obviously recast.
- Nobby C
- Chub
- Posts: 2217
- Joined: Wed Nov 23 2011 06:00
Re: What went wrong
When you feather the cast did you halt flow of line just before the bait hit the water? This extends the hook link and straightens it out before impact.
-
- Stickleback
- Posts: 6
- Joined: Thu Dec 29 2016 23:18
Re: What went wrong
Jason Skilton wrote: ↑Thu Nov 02 2017 10:07 -No zebra mussels as far as I know, was a clean cut thoughNormally with a bite off its not clean, is there zebra mussels present?
-
- Stickleback
- Posts: 6
- Joined: Thu Dec 29 2016 23:18
-
- Stickleback
- Posts: 6
- Joined: Thu Dec 29 2016 23:18
Re: What went wrong
alan behenna wrote: ↑Thu Nov 02 2017 10:49 -Any recommendations for booms?If it's not happened to you before, put it down to (?), because you ain't certain what "did" occur this time.
First place I'd go is to put a running ledger boom on your rig, thereby maintaining your style, but holding the trace off the line somewhat.
If you suspect trace might have tangled with main line on impact, then obviously recast.
- Jason Skilton
- Zander
- Posts: 7015
- Joined: Wed Sep 07 2011 05:00
- Location: East Anglia
Re: What went wrong
Booms - John Roberts ones are good in my opinion
-
- Stickleback
- Posts: 6
- Joined: Thu Dec 29 2016 23:18
Re: What went wrong
Jason Skilton wrote: ↑Thu Nov 02 2017 15:02 -Thanks just ordered someBooms - John Roberts ones are good in my opinion
-
- Chub
- Posts: 1985
- Joined: Sat Jan 11 2014 21:49
Re: What went wrong
Probably worth having a cast around the swim it happened with just a lead tied on before you fish it again see if there's any unexpected snag or something that could of caused it.
- dannytaylor
- Barbel
- Posts: 4603
- Joined: Mon Aug 29 2011 05:00
Re: What went wrong
It sounds like rocks. If it is a particularly rocky venue I use a rubbing leader of 50lb heavy mono anything between 6ft too 12ft depends on depth of swim. Connect the mono to the braid with an Albright knot, on the mono slide a sunk float, this will lift your braid up in the water and hopefully away from any rocks.
-
- Barbel
- Posts: 4271
- Joined: Tue Jan 15 2013 06:00
- Location: lea valley or used to be
Re: What went wrong
Nobby C wrote: ↑Thu Nov 02 2017 11:04 -What he said,but what i do as well as straightening the line/braid out is feel it down and and the split second the lead hits the bottom a small sharp tug to hopefully stop the bait from falling on top of the lead etc,which is what i think might have happened in your case.................Leaving a baited snap tackle in a pike is another reason why i started to use single singles,but that's just me,not everyones cup of tea.When you feather the cast did you halt flow of line just before the bait hit the water? This extends the hook link and straightens it out before impact.
Nothing wrong with me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1 Its everyone else.
- owen k
- Chub
- Posts: 1302
- Joined: Thu Oct 06 2011 05:00
- Location: Ireland
Re: What went wrong
Lost a baited rig the other day and it's a bummer.Berkley swivel broke on a cast.Brand new,first cast.I got the top eye and barrel back.
-
- Ferox Trout
- Posts: 10664
- Joined: Sat Aug 27 2011 05:00
- Location: Just a long chuck from the Shannon...
Re: What went wrong
johnfenton1968 wrote: ↑Thu Nov 02 2017 18:36 -Make sure to use the boom the right way around or it won't be any advantage. i.e. with the bead/clip uppermost, you'd be amazed how many people put them on the wrong way round.Jason Skilton wrote: ↑Thu Nov 02 2017 15:02 -Thanks just ordered someBooms - John Roberts ones are good in my opinion
Also, when you cast, as soon as the rig and bait land separately on the surface, hold the rod to one side so that you have a tight line until the rig touches down, especially in deep water and then as already mentioned pull it back a foot or 2 immediately to straighten it out.
Marcraft are for queers.
-
- Ferox Trout
- Posts: 10664
- Joined: Sat Aug 27 2011 05:00
- Location: Just a long chuck from the Shannon...
Re: What went wrong
owen k wrote: ↑Tue Nov 07 2017 21:41 -Berkley stuff seems to be gone to hell Owen, I don't use it any more. Their swivels seem to be made now from some very soft metal. Tie a knot with braid, have a few casts with a lead and then cut it off and have a look, half the time the braid will have cut a groove in the metal of the eye.Lost a baited rig the other day and it's a bummer.Berkley swivel broke on a cast.Brand new,first cast.I got the top eye and barrel back.
Marcraft are for queers.
- owen k
- Chub
- Posts: 1302
- Joined: Thu Oct 06 2011 05:00
- Location: Ireland
Re: What went wrong
I'm finished with them now anyway.Binned 2 packets.Quite a shock when a product you've been using for 20 years lets you down like that.