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one eye jack wrote: ↑Fri Jan 12 2024 23:42 -As a newbie on the pit I apologise if this has been 'flagged ' before, I've deadbaited for years but never used red 'flags'..I've just ordered some but still to use ..is it a 'if gonna take will take'? personally I think maybe a flash of red may induce a take..I'll give them a try ..
Chico 48 PAC wrote: ↑Mon Jan 15 2024 11:52 -Indeed Chico, I even lay claim to inventing the idea and wrote about it in Coarse fisherman "Seeing Red" back in the day!Dave Horton swears by them, not the commercial ones but homemade. As John said he uses them and they certainly do not detract from pike taking them.
Mark Phillips wrote: ↑Mon Mar 04 2024 20:21 -It was the red on Stickleback throats, fish fins and my Ondex lures that.I like John's comments on this. Works for me with lures as well... little edges...
Mark Phillips wrote: ↑Mon Mar 04 2024 20:21 -What is that covering made of Mark,how does it standup to being gripped by forceps etcI like John's comments on this. Works for me with lures as well... little edges...
Mark Phillips wrote: ↑Mon Mar 04 2024 20:21 -The BKK UVs do look good in the water on a roach patternI like John's comments on this. Works for me with lures as well... little edges...
Steve Dennington wrote: ↑Tue Mar 05 2024 19:32 -To us Steve?Mark Phillips wrote: ↑Mon Mar 04 2024 20:21 -The BKK UVs do look good in the water on a roach patternI like John's comments on this. Works for me with lures as well... little edges...
Dave Horton wrote: ↑Tue Mar 05 2024 19:42 -I'm sure they do, or at least in certain light conditions. I can't imagine that they wouldn't be able to differentiate colours, or we wouldn't see such a wide variety in colours amongst them. Some sea species look like they've been spray painted by someone under the influence of something, which would be pointless if none of their fellow fish could tell the difference.
To us Steve?
I gather fish see things differently but they must see red or at least contrast?
(Or it wouldn't be so common in the fish world face)
Steve Dennington wrote: ↑Tue Mar 05 2024 20:32 -Interesting!Dave Horton wrote: ↑Tue Mar 05 2024 19:42 -I'm sure they do, or at least in certain light conditions. I can't imagine that they wouldn't be able to differentiate colours, or we wouldn't see such a wide variety in colours amongst them. Some sea species look like they've been spray painted by someone under the influence of something, which would be pointless if none of their fellow fish could tell the difference.
To us Steve?
I gather fish see things differently but they must see red or at least contrast?
(Or it wouldn't be so common in the fish world face)
Those BKK UVs aren't just red/orange, they're painted with UV reactive paint which is alleged (by those who sell them, so I'm mildly sceptical) to be eye candy to predatory fish. Whether there's any gain from using them or not is a moot point, but even if there's nothing to gain there's surely nothing to lose by using them.
I found it interesting though, that having sprayed a bunch of lures and left them hanging to dry outside, I couldn't see any difference between the ones that I'd painted fluorescent yellow and the ones that had just their white primer coat from 10yds away as the light faded in the evening. They all looked pure white. I can only assume that the effect would be the same in shallow coloured water as it is in the well-documented loss of colour at depth in clear water. It all down to UV light penetration I suppose.
Steve Dennington wrote: ↑Tue Mar 05 2024 20:32 -I've been putting BKK UVs on quite a few of my lures for some time now, mainly patterns I use in low light or coloured water. They really stand out and also the new Chartreuse ones, which were on a lure I caught some good fish on last month, fishing in almost zero clarity flood water. I'm 100% they make the lure more visible to the pike under certain conditions, any little edge you can get is worth it in my opinion...Dave Horton wrote: ↑Tue Mar 05 2024 19:42 -I'm sure they do, or at least in certain light conditions. I can't imagine that they wouldn't be able to differentiate colours, or we wouldn't see such a wide variety in colours amongst them. Some sea species look like they've been spray painted by someone under the influence of something, which would be pointless if none of their fellow fish could tell the difference.
To us Steve?
I gather fish see things differently but they must see red or at least contrast?
(Or it wouldn't be so common in the fish world face)
Those BKK UVs aren't just red/orange, they're painted with UV reactive paint which is alleged (by those who sell them, so I'm mildly sceptical) to be eye candy to predatory fish. Whether there's any gain from using them or not is a moot point, but even if there's nothing to gain there's surely nothing to lose by using them.
I found it interesting though, that having sprayed a bunch of lures and left them hanging to dry outside, I couldn't see any difference between the ones that I'd painted fluorescent yellow and the ones that had just their white primer coat from 10yds away as the light faded in the evening. They all looked pure white. I can only assume that the effect would be the same in shallow coloured water as it is in the well-documented loss of colour at depth in clear water. It all down to UV light penetration I suppose.
Mark Phillips wrote: ↑Thu Mar 28 2024 17:54 -Yeah, they do give off a good glow. Top quality hooks too - strong, but wickedly sharp.Steve Dennington wrote: ↑Tue Mar 05 2024 20:32 -I've been putting BKK UVs on quite a few of my lures for some time now, mainly patterns I use in low light or coloured water. They really stand out and also the new Chartreuse ones, which were on a lure I caught some good fish on last month, fishing in almost zero clarity flood water. I'm 100% they make the lure more visible to the pike under certain conditions, any little edge you can get is worth it in my opinion...Dave Horton wrote: ↑Tue Mar 05 2024 19:42 -I'm sure they do, or at least in certain light conditions. I can't imagine that they wouldn't be able to differentiate colours, or we wouldn't see such a wide variety in colours amongst them. Some sea species look like they've been spray painted by someone under the influence of something, which would be pointless if none of their fellow fish could tell the difference.
To us Steve?
I gather fish see things differently but they must see red or at least contrast?
(Or it wouldn't be so common in the fish world face)
Those BKK UVs aren't just red/orange, they're painted with UV reactive paint which is alleged (by those who sell them, so I'm mildly sceptical) to be eye candy to predatory fish. Whether there's any gain from using them or not is a moot point, but even if there's nothing to gain there's surely nothing to lose by using them.
I found it interesting though, that having sprayed a bunch of lures and left them hanging to dry outside, I couldn't see any difference between the ones that I'd painted fluorescent yellow and the ones that had just their white primer coat from 10yds away as the light faded in the evening. They all looked pure white. I can only assume that the effect would be the same in shallow coloured water as it is in the well-documented loss of colour at depth in clear water. It all down to UV light penetration I suppose.