Pike killer

[Kev22188]

This got posted to me today, if anyone has any details on who this is please message me and il pass it on. This was at Loch Lomond I belive. Alot of good sized pike killed when should be released safely.

[bencarvosso]

Shocking way to treat pike but I wonder if they're dead.
They don't look like they've been chapped on the head maybe kept in a keepnet or something.
Reminds me of a 1970s pike catch

[Mike J]

If they came from the area behind him they could have been preparing to spawn and easily removed with a net.

Sad to see some people actually think this is something to boast about.

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[davelumb]

Shocking way to treat pike but I wonder if they're dead.
They don't look like they've been chapped on the head maybe kept in a keepnet or something.
Reminds me of a 1970s pike catch

I agree. They don't look dead. I thought this kind of photo had gone out with the Ark.

[Steve D]

That bottom fish looks dead as the colours draining out. Hopefully they’re not and where put back safe and sound . I’ll not hold my breath though .

[stubbojo]

spawning grounds definitely , looks like there all females , probably just scooped them up in a net , with the absence of a mat , dont think it looks good for them TBH ...
SHOULD BE NAMED AND SHAMED........

[Kev22188]

From what iv heard and reason I put this post up last night as it was sent to me by a friend, bailiff at Loch Lomond trying to find this person as apparently they have been chapped, the bottom pike definitely looks like it's been there a while.

[Andrew]

where did the pic come from to begin with, wouldn't that point to who it is

[Kev22188]

You would think so lol but obv no names been given out etc, if he bought a permit could narrow it down aswel but don't know if he did. Feel all pike should be returned safely and landing mats used for unhooking, not 1 in the picture ether? Hopefully the bailiff finds out who it is.

[Steve Dennington]

That bottom fish looks dead as the colours draining out. Hopefully they’re not and where put back safe and sound . I’ll not hold my breath though .

Possibly just two tone colouration on that fish? Fins and eyes are always the giveaways and they look like those of a live fish to me

[stubbojo]

That bottom fish looks dead as the colours draining out. Hopefully they’re not and where put back safe and sound . I’ll not hold my breath though .

Possibly just two tone colouration on that fish? Fins and eyes are always the giveaways and they look like those of a live fish to me

yes probably ...but for how long ....... the stare says it all for me
surely with a catch like that it would raise a smile .......

[Steve Le maitre]

A picture with 5 fish in it you would of thought at least one of them would of been gaping, but just look at the person’s eyes - completely dead.
Fish of that size and number probably represent near on a thousand acres of water in real terms, all pooled into a small area for an easy harvest.
And is that the first time ? did they go back ok ?
I doubt the Bailiff would really care, they are there purely for safeguarding the Game Fishing.

[Andrew]

That bottom fish looks dead as the colours draining out. Hopefully they’re not and where put back safe and sound . I’ll not hold my breath though .

Possibly just two tone colouration on that fish? Fins and eyes are always the giveaways and they look like those of a live fish to me

Nah that's dead in my opinion or at the very least been kept in a keepnet for way too long at deaths door. Seen that sort of color plenty times on dead fish, chapped trout mostly (worked on a trout fishery for a good while)

[Andrew]

A picture with 5 fish in it you would of thought at least one of them would of been gaping, but just look at the person’s eyes - completely dead.
Fish of that size and number probably represent near on a thousand acres of water in real terms, all pooled into a small area for an easy harvest.
And is that the first time ? did they go back ok ?
I doubt the Bailiff would really care, they are there purely for safeguarding the Game Fishing.

I've seen that face somewhere before and its driving me mad that I cant place it.

[Mike J]

They are all dead.

The fins all straight, no flapping, everything that is nigh on impossible with four fresh fish, most of all their blank stare.
Even the poser has an embarrassed look on his mug.
Come on guys someone must know him or someone who does.

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[stubbojo]

A picture with 5 fish in it you would of thought at least one of them would of been gaping, but just look at the person’s eyes - completely dead.
Fish of that size and number probably represent near on a thousand acres of water in real terms, all pooled into a small area for an easy harvest.
And is that the first time ? did they go back ok ?
I doubt the Bailiff would really care, they are there purely for safeguarding the Game Fishing.

I've seen that face somewhere before and its driving me mad that I cant place it.

he does look familiar , sure i have seen pics of him somewhere else , angling pics somewhere it will come to me

[Steve Le maitre]

Over the years I’ve read a lot of recollections on big Lomond Pike catches, but what is it with foreign anglers ( I assume he’s foreign looking at him ) and a their seemed natural ability to catch fish. I was on the boat last Oct about 9.30 pm just about to nod off when 3 foreign anglers turned up, crashed ashore in a rib - started a big camp fire, erected two tents and had two rods out within 30mins. I heard a bite alarm go off within 10 mins of the rods going out ( I got to hear it due to them being finished with the chain saw. I up anchor and f***** off, nothing could prepare you for the sheer noise and carnage I witnessed that evening. At least Windermere only has gill nets lots of Cormorants and Otters, and its 180 miles closer - not a small thing with the cost of fuel

[Andrew]

Over the years I’ve read a lot of recollections on big Lomond Pike catches, but what is it with foreign anglers ( I assume he’s foreign looking at him ) and a their seemed natural ability to catch fish. I was on the boat last Oct about 9.30 pm just about to nod off when 3 foreign anglers turned up, crashed ashore in a rib - started a big camp fire, erected two tents and had two rods out within 30mins. I heard a bite alarm go off within 10 mins of the rods going out ( I got to hear it due to them being finished with the chain saw. I up anchor and f***** off, nothing could prepare you for the sheer noise and carnage I witnessed that evening. At least Windermere only has gill nets lots of Cormorants and Otters, and its 180 miles closer - not a small thing with the cost of fuel

I guess some of the rigs are a lot less like what we would use. Less gubbins on it, no thought of fish safety, lighter lines, single hooks and not bothered about deep hooking those singles etc etc. I'm sure if I fished like a noddy I would catch more fish but I'd probably kill more in the proccess.

Seen it too many times to be a coincidence. There is definitely a thing as noddy luck imo

[Steve Le maitre]

Over the years I’ve read a lot of recollections on big Lomond Pike catches, but what is it with foreign anglers ( I assume he’s foreign looking at him ) and a their seemed natural ability to catch fish. I was on the boat last Oct about 9.30 pm just about to nod off when 3 foreign anglers turned up, crashed ashore in a rib - started a big camp fire, erected two tents and had two rods out within 30mins. I heard a bite alarm go off within 10 mins of the rods going out ( I got to hear it due to them being finished with the chain saw. I up anchor and f***** off, nothing could prepare you for the sheer noise and carnage I witnessed that evening. At least Windermere only has gill nets lots of Cormorants and Otters, and its 180 miles closer - not a small thing with the cost of fuel

I guess some of the rigs are a lot less like what we would use. Less gubbins on it, no thought of fish safety, lighter lines, single hooks and not bothered about deep hooking those singles etc etc. I'm sure if I fished like a noddy I would catch more fish but I'd probably kill more in the proccess.

Seen it too many times to be a coincidence. There is definitely a thing as noddy luck imo

They have to catch fish to survive a w/e on the bank without starving, at lest you do the decent thing and prepare yourself even if it’s with the old Pot Noodles
Still a Heathen though

[Andrew]

I've been aff the pot noodles for ages. I just like the chicken and mushroom powder from them to add to plain crisps. Dont judge me.

[stubbojo]

send this to the on site bailiff i bet he recognises him or somebody who works on the loch or the local tackle shop.....f****n c**t if he has killed them
must be some lads on here can help identifying him ....... face book will throw his name up somewhere .....if he put it up that is

[stubbojo]

They are all dead.

The fins all straight, no flapping, everything that is nigh on impossible with four fresh fish, most of all their blank stare.
Even the poser has an embarrassed look on his mug.
Come on guys someone must know him or someone who does.

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just had another good look ,i think your right mike there all dead , the fins give it away and no gaping , normally when you put a pike on the matt the fins come up off there body
theirs are stuck down all of them ......dead ......

[c14r4n]

send this to the on site bailiff i bet he recognises him or somebody who works on the loch or the local tackle shop.....f****n c**t if he has killed them
must be some lads on here can help identifying him ....... face book will throw his name up somewhere .....if he put it up that is

See above, there are bailiffs but they don't bother their a**e for anything other than the game angling. The place got battered during lockdown, blind eyes turned galore.....

[stubbojo]

send this to the on site bailiff i bet he recognises him or somebody who works on the loch or the local tackle shop.....f****n c**t if he has killed them
must be some lads on here can help identifying him ....... face book will throw his name up somewhere .....if he put it up that is

See above, there are bailiffs but they don't bother their a**e for anything other than the game angling. The place got battered during lockdown, blind eyes turned galore.....

if thats the case on there then ......its foooked

[Kev22188]

My mate's have still been putting posts out trying to find out who it is still and not any closer to the answer, appreciate the help tho guys

Iv witnessed foreigners catching pike before and using a mat, barbless hooks, quick picture and safely released, but iv spoke to alot that say they eat pike and clearly don't follow the rules, it's just pike ain't farmed like trout to be chapped, they take years to get to decent sizes and when there chapped like picture above, that's just 5 good size pike u won't ever have on your line now and 5 less in the water and how ever many more been chapped aswel. Iv heard of good pike waters that have now been cleared out prity much because of foreigners, its needs to stop.

[stubbojo]

My mate's have still been putting posts out trying to find out who it is still and not any closer to the answer, appreciate the help tho guys

Iv witnessed foreigners catching pike before and using a mat, barbless hooks, quick picture and safely released, but iv spoke to alot that say they eat pike and clearly don't follow the rules, it's just pike ain't farmed like trout to be chapped, they take years to get to decent sizes and when there chapped like picture above, that's just 5 good size pike u won't ever have on your line now and 5 less in the water and how ever many more been chapped aswel. Iv heard of good pike waters that have now been cleared out prity much because of foreigners, its needs to stop.

its too late pal
its been happening for over 20 years in my parts .....see it all the time

[Sebas]

They look fine. Can't see any blood, damage or loss of colouration.

[stubbojo]

if you look at the head of the guy looks like its been doctored in some way a false face imposed ,the head dont look right to me

[Steve Dennington]

if you look at the head of the guy looks like its been doctored in some way a false face imposed ,the head dont look right to me

We're getting in to the realms of discussing the "dodgy looking trees" of the alleged Broads 42 (10+years ago?) now.

I really think that the fish were alive at the point that the photo was taken (they may not be now - who knows? ) but the "bag shot" of pike has long since been consigned to history. On that basis, it was a pretty stupid trophy shot, but beyond that it's nothing more than speculation.

[MarkBerrisford]

Plenty of comments about this on Facebook from what I gather the fish where released they was kept in the flooded area apparently before the picture was taken although a few others got lost swimming into the flooded areas!