Record Zed.

[Chris Hammond]

I was trying to relate the tale of the bloke who posted a pic of a scraper double and tried to claim it as a twenty plus record from.an EA ressie a few years back to a mate.

Anybody able to remind me of who, when, and where please?

[Carlperkins]

https://www.total-fishing.com/record-za ... ham-water/

[andrew_nagel]

Photos can be deceptive. It's got some tail wrist on it, the chap is in winter clothing, fish held to body, and he might be 6' 6". That one looks a good bit better than a scrapper double to me.

[Carlperkins]

He is a big lad
It’s our own Micky Dolan

[Mark_Houghton]

Photos can be deceptive. It's got some tail wrist on it, the chap is in winter clothing, fish held to body, and he might be 6' 6". That one looks a good bit better than a scrapper double to me.

Spot on. I`ve fished with a few big lads who make 20s look like low doubles in pics, and conversely, i`ve fished with a few hobbits who make doubles look like mid 20s

.....can never judge from a pic with any accuracy unless you know the angler`s size imo

[Chris Hammond]

https://www.total-fishing.com/record-za ... ham-water/

That's the one thanks Karl.

Edit ...er no it isn't.

[Chris Hammond]

Photos can be deceptive. It's got some tail wrist on it, the chap is in winter clothing, fish held to body, and he might be 6' 6". That one looks a good bit better than a scrapper double to me.

Spot on. I`ve fished with a few big lads who make 20s look like low doubles in pics, and conversely, i`ve fished with a few hobbits who make doubles look like mid 20s

.....can never judge from a pic with any accuracy unless you know the angler`s size imo

You think it was a record then Mark?

I've said much the same on here for years and defended many an angler from tte PP kangaroo court.

[micky dolan]

Ahh remember it very well
2009 Chris
6 ft 1" and 17 and a half Stone , but pictures of me can be deceptive .

[suffolk si]

Photos can be deceptive. It's got some tail wrist on it, the chap is in winter clothing, fish held to body, and he might be 6' 6". That one looks a good bit better than a scrapper double to me.

Spot on. I`ve fished with a few big lads who make 20s look like low doubles in pics, and conversely, i`ve fished with a few hobbits who make doubles look like mid 20s

.....can never judge from a pic with any accuracy unless you know the angler`s size imo

AgreedMy mate is about five six ( a foot shorter than me) and about 11 stone ,I hate seeing his photos of mid doubles that look about twenty five pound

[Mark_Houghton]

Photos can be deceptive. It's got some tail wrist on it, the chap is in winter clothing, fish held to body, and he might be 6' 6". That one looks a good bit better than a scrapper double to me.

Spot on. I`ve fished with a few big lads who make 20s look like low doubles in pics, and conversely, i`ve fished with a few hobbits who make doubles look like mid 20s

.....can never judge from a pic with any accuracy unless you know the angler`s size imo

You think it was a record then Mark?

I've said much the same on here for years and defended many an angler from tte PP kangaroo court.

Dont` know, don`t really care tbh....all i said was that photos can be deceptive unless you know if the angler`s a big lad or not

I also think people are so used to the current trend of "fish held out for the camera to make it look huge" type pics that everyone posts nowadays, when you get a pic like this where the fish is held close to the body, it throws people.

[Chris Hammond]

Ahh remember it very well
2009 Chris
6 ft 1" and 17 and a half Stone , but pictures of me can be deceptive .

I'm getting my stories mixed up Micky. That's not the zed I was thinking of. If you look back to the thread in question I actually defended you. It looks like a whopper.

I have proven many times over on here that it is IMPOSSIBLE to gauge the size of a fish without knowing the angler.

I could put up a picture of a 27lbs 6ozs pike that, had I not forewarned you, literally everybody would guess at less than 12lbs. It was caught during a pike qualifier and witnessed by perhaps six or more anglers.

[Alex Fox]

Ahh remember it very well
2009 Chris
6 ft 1" and 17 and a half Stone , but pictures of me can be deceptive .

Looks a very decent zander to me ... i have never had a double myself

Was it a record ... just interested

[dropped_run]

you're not by chance thinking of the Thames 20 Chris, caught by an angling guide? Warwick something or other. I dont recall any other claimed 20's out of AW

[micky dolan]

Ahh remember it very well
2009 Chris
6 ft 1" and 17 and a half Stone , but pictures of me can be deceptive .

I'm getting my stories mixed up Micky. That's not the zed I was thinking of. If you look back to the thread in question I actually defended you. It looks like a whopper.

I have proven many times over on here that it is IMPOSSIBLE to gauge the size of a fish without knowing the angler.

I could put up a picture of a 27lbs 6ozs pike that, had I not forewarned you, literally everybody would guess at less than 12lbs. It was caught during a pike qualifier and witnessed by perhaps six or more anglers.

Thanks Chris the story ran for a good few pages on the old forum ....

[micky dolan]

Ahh remember it very well
2009 Chris
6 ft 1" and 17 and a half Stone , but pictures of me can be deceptive .

Looks a very decent zander to me ... i have never had a double myself

Was it a record ... just interested

Hi Alex British Record Fish Committee only rejected it due to being weighed on a boat .
Think there was a 24lb last year from the Severn , the guy never put it forward for a record

[Chris Hammond]

you're not by chance thinking of the Thames 20 Chris, caught by an angling guide? Warwick something or other. I dont recall any other claimed 20's out of AW

I think an increase in years has tripped me up tbh.

I think I am mixing up a couple of stories and completely c ocking it up!

[Fentiger01]

you're not by chance thinking of the Thames 20 Chris, caught by an angling guide? Warwick something or other. I dont recall any other claimed 20's out of AW

I think an increase in years has tripped me up tbh.

I think I am mixing up a couple of stories and completely c ocking it up!

Didn't stop me dropping my beer & dinner, thinking that someone had just caught a new Record Zed Chris.

[Neville Fickling]

No one’s caught a new record zed because a) r the weighing of Micks fish did not meet BRFC standards. Any other of it hasn’t been reported then it doesn’t exist even though it might!!

[davelumb]

No one’s caught a new record zed because a) r the weighing of Micks fish did not meet BRFC standards. Any other of it hasn’t been reported then it doesn’t exist even though it might!!

The unknown unknowns?

[Neville Fickling]

Thank you ex American defence sec!!!

[Neville Fickling]

Donald Rumsfelt

[Sebas]

I'm 6'3, 17 stone and make a 20lb fish look very small when I hold it close like that. Its hard to judge pics like this unless you know the person but I reckon thats a very big Zander.

[Alex Fox]

Ahh remember it very well
2009 Chris
6 ft 1" and 17 and a half Stone , but pictures of me can be deceptive .

Looks a very decent zander to me ... i have never had a double myself

Was it a record ... just interested

Hi Alex British Record Fish Committee only rejected it due to being weighed on a boat .
Think there was a 24lb last year from the Severn , the guy never put it forward for a record

Thanks Micky, obviously didn't know if you had actually submitted it, but can see why they rejected it then

Did you know it was a record when you caught it !

[micky dolan]

Ahh remember it very well
2009 Chris
6 ft 1" and 17 and a half Stone , but pictures of me can be deceptive .

Looks a very decent zander to me ... i have never had a double myself

Was it a record ... just interested

Hi Alex British Record Fish Committee only rejected it due to being weighed on a boat .
Think there was a 24lb last year from the Severn , the guy never put it forward for a record

Thanks Micky, obviously didn't know if you had actually submitted it, but can see why they rejected it then

Did you know it was a record when you caught it !

Pred who was in another boat near me thought it was , and a couple of trout anglers who witnessed it said they thought it could be ..

[Antione]

Not directly related to the record Zed, but..
I was delighted to have been present at the Yorkshire Regional PAC meeting last week at which Steve Lyon and Ian Wilson delivered a stunning presentation on their Zander captures on the Terrence over the last few years. If you ever get the chance to see their presentation, prepare to be astounded!

[Alex Fox]

Ahh remember it very well
2009 Chris
6 ft 1" and 17 and a half Stone , but pictures of me can be deceptive .

Looks a very decent zander to me ... i have never had a double myself

Was it a record ... just interested

Hi Alex British Record Fish Committee only rejected it due to being weighed on a boat .
Think there was a 24lb last year from the Severn , the guy never put it forward for a record

Thanks Micky, obviously didn't know if you had actually submitted it, but can see why they rejected it then

Did you know it was a record when you caught it !

Pred who was in another boat near me thought it was , and a couple of trout anglers who witnessed it said they thought it could be ..

Problem is time, if we catch a decent fish we just want to get it back safely ... so back it goes !

Would still have been cool to be the record holder though

[Fentiger01]

Big Zander are very impressive creatures indeed.

[Chico 48 PAC]

Lets face it a tailors tape measure weighs nothing and takes the majority of guesswork out of a fish photo. I always carry one, even if it would be for my boat partners use.

[Mark Phillips]

you're not by chance thinking of the Thames 20 Chris, caught by an angling guide? Warwick something or other. I dont recall any other claimed 20's out of AW

There have been, I know of two. Have seen pictures as well. Caught by a trout angler on flies who was clueless to the significance of the weight. This was over ten years ago though. One he claimed went 21, the other 23. No way of saying if that was true, but those fish looked huge to my eyes, and I have actually caught some big zander. Since the world and his wife, plus all those Polish guys in matchy matchy outfits descended on the resis, it's never been quite the same. Still potential for a record, but I think the rivers are a better bet right now. Love to be proven wrong face.

[colinb]

ExGrafham fishery manager told me of a 23+ but can't remember how or who he said caught it? There a couple of trout anglers who exclusively trolled lead lines on the oars who caught many pike and Zander in their quests for monster brownies. As far as I know the only one still around has stopped fishing Grafham.