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With straight ledgering, do you prefer fixed or running leads?
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Have always fished running Leads but plenty on sunken float paternosteres dragging up to 6 oz of lead around including the same fish twice at 19.02 and 19.04
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Neville Fickling wrote: ↑Tue Feb 14 2023 13:42 -Agree with the paternosters amount of resistance. The last two I had were both on fixed leads.Have always fished running Leads but plenty on sunken float paternosteres dragging up to 6 oz of lead around including the same fish twice at 19.02 and 19.04
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What do you guys (or should I say thems?) find the best/worst conditions? the only thing I can say through personal experience is night time and particularly moonlit nights for being good. The zander stocks here are low so its tricky to make any conclusions about why I dont catch and its certainly not for lack of rod hours!
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Depends where you are. This time of year daylight runs are possible on some waters. If you have limited time early morning until 1 pm is worth a go
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cookiesdaughtersdad wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20 2023 21:22 -On lures I’ve stopped bothering with those nights Alan. Total waste of time for me on my venues.What do you guys (or should I say thems?) find the best/worst conditions? the only thing I can say through personal experience is night time and particularly moonlit nights for being good. The zander stocks here are low so its tricky to make any conclusions about why I dont catch and its certainly not for lack of rod hours!
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The biggest thing for me this season has been wind, the windiest nights have been by far the most productive over a range of venues. Not all been warm nights either.
Dave, bait rods stayed in the car….probably should have got them out but stuck to lures instead. Jumped out of a swim and a mate went in a few hours later and had a 16 so I’m sick as piglet, obviously
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dropped_run wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21 2023 11:33 -Thanks for that its those kind of variables Im looking for.cookiesdaughtersdad wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20 2023 21:22 -On lures I’ve stopped bothering with those nights Alan. Total waste of time for me on my venues.What do you guys (or should I say thems?) find the best/worst conditions? the only thing I can say through personal experience is night time and particularly moonlit nights for being good. The zander stocks here are low so its tricky to make any conclusions about why I dont catch and its certainly not for lack of rod hours!
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The biggest thing for me this season has been wind, the windiest nights have been by far the most productive over a range of venues. Not all been warm nights either.
Dave, bait rods stayed in the car….probably should have got them out but stuck to lures instead. Jumped out of a swim and a mate went in a few hours later and had a 16 so I’m sick as piglet, obviously
I do know of a tip from Rob Shallcroft re wind in that on windy nights the zander kept their dorsals up for photos, so to get the dorsal up he blew on them and it works most times!
Has anyone got anything on water clarity/colour or anything else for that matter. I have thought that with the zanders excellent low light vision that colour in the water would give them an edge?
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Re: Zander bites.
On the two rivers i fish for zander there are always acceptions to any rule but for overall 'batting average' i follow the following.
Go pike fishing if the water temp is below 6d, the bigger zander rarely turn up below this (for me). Not many big zander photos in snow/frost seen. Windy & non biblical rain is good. Big tides are good. Big moons = fish shallower water.
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Go pike fishing if the water temp is below 6d, the bigger zander rarely turn up below this (for me). Not many big zander photos in snow/frost seen. Windy & non biblical rain is good. Big tides are good. Big moons = fish shallower water.
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cookiesdaughtersdad wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21 2023 13:20 -They are adapted for exactly that having a Tapetum lucidieum ( check spelling! ) which reflects light back onto the retina rather than allowing it to escape the eye. Walleye the American cousin of the zander have an even better adapted eyedropped_run wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21 2023 11:33 -Thanks for that its those kind of variables Im looking for.cookiesdaughtersdad wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20 2023 21:22 -On lures I’ve stopped bothering with those nights Alan. Total waste of time for me on my venues.What do you guys (or should I say thems?) find the best/worst conditions? the only thing I can say through personal experience is night time and particularly moonlit nights for being good. The zander stocks here are low so its tricky to make any conclusions about why I dont catch and its certainly not for lack of rod hours!
Cheers, Alan
The biggest thing for me this season has been wind, the windiest nights have been by far the most productive over a range of venues. Not all been warm nights either.
Dave, bait rods stayed in the car….probably should have got them out but stuck to lures instead. Jumped out of a swim and a mate went in a few hours later and had a 16 so I’m sick as piglet, obviously
I do know of a tip from Rob Shallcroft re wind in that on windy nights the zander kept their dorsals up for photos, so to get the dorsal up he blew on them and it works most times!
Has anyone got anything on water clarity/colour or anything else for that matter. I have thought that with the zanders excellent low light vision that colour in the water would give them an edge?
Cheers, Alan
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Emma Hamilton wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21 2023 15:33 -Water temp is over 8 at the moment and the rods are out. Had a tip from another angler that if he had time to feel the lead down, it was to deep.On the two rivers i fish for zander there are always acceptions to any rule but for overall 'batting average' i follow the following.
Go pike fishing if the water temp is below 6d, the bigger zander rarely turn up below this (for me). Not many big zander photos in snow/frost seen. Windy & non biblical rain is good. Big tides are good. Big moons = fish shallower water.
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Neville Fickling wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21 2023 16:55 -Always nice to see those cats eyes come up in the dark!cookiesdaughtersdad wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21 2023 13:20 -They are adapted for exactly that having a Tapetum lucidieum ( check spelling! ) which reflects light back onto the retina rather than allowing it to escape the eye. Walleye the American cousin of the zander have an even better adapted eyedropped_run wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21 2023 11:33 -Thanks for that its those kind of variables Im looking for.cookiesdaughtersdad wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20 2023 21:22 -On lures I’ve stopped bothering with those nights Alan. Total waste of time for me on my venues.What do you guys (or should I say thems?) find the best/worst conditions? the only thing I can say through personal experience is night time and particularly moonlit nights for being good. The zander stocks here are low so its tricky to make any conclusions about why I dont catch and its certainly not for lack of rod hours!
Cheers, Alan
The biggest thing for me this season has been wind, the windiest nights have been by far the most productive over a range of venues. Not all been warm nights either.
Dave, bait rods stayed in the car….probably should have got them out but stuck to lures instead. Jumped out of a swim and a mate went in a few hours later and had a 16 so I’m sick as piglet, obviously
I do know of a tip from Rob Shallcroft re wind in that on windy nights the zander kept their dorsals up for photos, so to get the dorsal up he blew on them and it works most times!
Has anyone got anything on water clarity/colour or anything else for that matter. I have thought that with the zanders excellent low light vision that colour in the water would give them an edge?
Cheers, Alan
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Just had a 20........lb pike!
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dropped_run wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21 2023 11:33 -Big fish.
Dave, bait rods stayed in the car….probably should have got them out but stuck to lures instead. Jumped out of a swim and a mate went in a few hours later and had a 16 so I’m sick as piglet, obviously
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cookiesdaughtersdad wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21 2023 19:41 -Brilliant mate. Result!Just had a 20........lb pike!
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Not been able to get out much this season as I have a 16 month old, another one on the way and signed off work for 9 weeks so far. Not conducive for driving to the fens for overnighters. Plus, on the nights I have done I’ve not seen a single Zander. Plenty of small pike though. I have a river 10 minutes down the road that I caught a Zander from years ago. Maybe these days I’ll be sticking closer to home
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The great Gavino wrote: ↑Wed Feb 22 2023 09:12 -Thank you had another three pike tonight but confidence for a big Z is good!cookiesdaughtersdad wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21 2023 19:41 -Brilliant mate. Result!Just had a 20........lb pike!
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The great Gavino wrote: ↑Wed Feb 22 2023 09:16 -We have to make our fishing suit us sometimes and not the other way round!Not been able to get out much this season as I have a 16 month old, another one on the way and signed off work for 9 weeks so far. Not conducive for driving to the fens for overnighters. Plus, on the nights I have done I’ve not seen a single Zander. Plenty of small pike though. I have a river 10 minutes down the road that I caught a Zander from years ago. Maybe these days I’ll be sticking closer to home
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The great Gavino wrote: ↑Wed Feb 22 2023 09:16 -If you pmNot been able to get out much this season as I have a 16 month old, another one on the way and signed off work for 9 weeks so far. Not conducive for driving to the fens for overnighters. Plus, on the nights I have done I’ve not seen a single Zander. Plenty of small pike though. I have a river 10 minutes down the road that I caught a Zander from years ago. Maybe these days I’ll be sticking closer to home
Me I might be able to tell you the status of the zander in that river
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Neville Fickling wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23 2023 09:49 -PM sentThe great Gavino wrote: ↑Wed Feb 22 2023 09:16 -If you pmNot been able to get out much this season as I have a 16 month old, another one on the way and signed off work for 9 weeks so far. Not conducive for driving to the fens for overnighters. Plus, on the nights I have done I’ve not seen a single Zander. Plenty of small pike though. I have a river 10 minutes down the road that I caught a Zander from years ago. Maybe these days I’ll be sticking closer to home
Me I might be able to tell you the status of the zander in that river
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Fentiger01 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 22 2023 08:38 -Sixth fish this season out of a swim I’ve fished the same day, or that I’ve weighed for someone bigger than my PB…at least I’m in the right areasdropped_run wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21 2023 11:33 -Big fish.
Dave, bait rods stayed in the car….probably should have got them out but stuck to lures instead. Jumped out of a swim and a mate went in a few hours later and had a 16 so I’m sick as piglet, obviously
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dropped_run wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23 2023 23:09 -Then it will happen, look at the quote at the very bottom of my posts!Fentiger01 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 22 2023 08:38 -Sixth fish this season out of a swim I’ve fished the same day, or that I’ve weighed for someone bigger than my PB…at least I’m in the right areasdropped_run wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21 2023 11:33 -Big fish.
Dave, bait rods stayed in the car….probably should have got them out but stuck to lures instead. Jumped out of a swim and a mate went in a few hours later and had a 16 so I’m sick as piglet, obviously
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cookiesdaughtersdad wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23 2023 00:06 -Very true, Alan. I’m due a few!The great Gavino wrote: ↑Wed Feb 22 2023 09:16 -We have to make our fishing suit us sometimes and not the other way round!Not been able to get out much this season as I have a 16 month old, another one on the way and signed off work for 9 weeks so far. Not conducive for driving to the fens for overnighters. Plus, on the nights I have done I’ve not seen a single Zander. Plenty of small pike though. I have a river 10 minutes down the road that I caught a Zander from years ago. Maybe these days I’ll be sticking closer to home
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cookiesdaughtersdad wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20 2023 21:22 -"Zander stocks are low" If you're talking about the river system I think you are, then OK, they're not as numerous as they once were; but quality has replaced quantity, and there's still good numbers of zander about. We never struggle to catch them when we target them on baits or luresWhat do you guys (or should I say thems?) find the best/worst conditions? the only thing I can say through personal experience is night time and particularly moonlit nights for being good. The zander stocks here are low so its tricky to make any conclusions about why I dont catch and its certainly not for lack of rod hours!
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Mark Phillips wrote: ↑Fri Feb 24 2023 18:46 -Yeh, you need to up your game , Alancookiesdaughtersdad wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20 2023 21:22 -"Zander stocks are low" If you're talking about the river system I think you are, then OK, they're not as numerous as they once were; but quality has replaced quantity, and there's still good numbers of zander about. We never struggle to catch them when we target them on baits or luresWhat do you guys (or should I say thems?) find the best/worst conditions? the only thing I can say through personal experience is night time and particularly moonlit nights for being good. The zander stocks here are low so its tricky to make any conclusions about why I dont catch and its certainly not for lack of rod hours!
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dropped_run wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23 2023 23:09 -It'll happen James.Sixth fish this season out of a swim I’ve fished the same day, or that I’ve weighed for someone bigger than my PB…at least I’m in the right areas
I had a monkey like that on my back for years, one of these days it'll be YOUR time mate.
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Emma Hamilton wrote: ↑Fri Feb 24 2023 19:30 -Mark Phillips wrote: ↑Fri Feb 24 2023 18:46 -Yeh, you need to up your game , Alancookiesdaughtersdad wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20 2023 21:22 -"Zander stocks are low" If you're talking about the river system I think you are, then OK, they're not as numerous as they once were; but quality has replaced quantity, and there's still good numbers of zander about. We never struggle to catch them when we target them on baits or luresWhat do you guys (or should I say thems?) find the best/worst conditions? the only thing I can say through personal experience is night time and particularly moonlit nights for being good. The zander stocks here are low so its tricky to make any conclusions about why I dont catch and its certainly not for lack of rod hours!
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Mark Phillips wrote: ↑Fri Feb 24 2023 18:46 -Average size is good, Mark at around 8lbs but numbers are quite low for me and my couple of angling neighbours, I am also involved in the local angling society. Done more time lately with course baits and they are certainly not climbing up the rods but I do plan to push on into the warmer weather and hopefully get a few more and bigger.cookiesdaughtersdad wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20 2023 21:22 -"Zander stocks are low" If you're talking about the river system I think you are, then OK, they're not as numerous as they once were; but quality has replaced quantity, and there's still good numbers of zander about. We never struggle to catch them when we target them on baits or luresWhat do you guys (or should I say thems?) find the best/worst conditions? the only thing I can say through personal experience is night time and particularly moonlit nights for being good. The zander stocks here are low so its tricky to make any conclusions about why I dont catch and its certainly not for lack of rod hours!
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Emma Hamilton wrote: ↑Fri Feb 24 2023 19:30 -Well I have maxed the rod hours out now so must simply be a bit sh1t!Mark Phillips wrote: ↑Fri Feb 24 2023 18:46 -Yeh, you need to up your game , Alancookiesdaughtersdad wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20 2023 21:22 -"Zander stocks are low" If you're talking about the river system I think you are, then OK, they're not as numerous as they once were; but quality has replaced quantity, and there's still good numbers of zander about. We never struggle to catch them when we target them on baits or luresWhat do you guys (or should I say thems?) find the best/worst conditions? the only thing I can say through personal experience is night time and particularly moonlit nights for being good. The zander stocks here are low so its tricky to make any conclusions about why I dont catch and its certainly not for lack of rod hours!
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cookiesdaughtersdad wrote: ↑Sun Feb 26 2023 10:42 -Your'll find them Al. Like everyone, with a bit of time on your hands, good baits and simple methods your'll catch a good sample of what's available. Hope your sample includes a monster.That's the nice buzz.Emma Hamilton wrote: ↑Fri Feb 24 2023 19:30 -Well I have maxed the rod hours out now so must simply be a bit sh1t!Mark Phillips wrote: ↑Fri Feb 24 2023 18:46 -Yeh, you need to up your game , Alancookiesdaughtersdad wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20 2023 21:22 -"Zander stocks are low" If you're talking about the river system I think you are, then OK, they're not as numerous as they once were; but quality has replaced quantity, and there's still good numbers of zander about. We never struggle to catch them when we target them on baits or luresWhat do you guys (or should I say thems?) find the best/worst conditions? the only thing I can say through personal experience is night time and particularly moonlit nights for being good. The zander stocks here are low so its tricky to make any conclusions about why I dont catch and its certainly not for lack of rod hours!
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Emma Hamilton wrote: ↑Sun Feb 26 2023 10:54 -Thanks my little target is to catch a few more, one or two a week would be nice with a double included although a pb would be simply magiccookiesdaughtersdad wrote: ↑Sun Feb 26 2023 10:42 -Your'll find them Al. Like everyone, with a bit of time on your hands, good baits and simple methods your'll catch a good sample of what's available. Hope your sample includes a monster.That's the nice buzz.Emma Hamilton wrote: ↑Fri Feb 24 2023 19:30 -Well I have maxed the rod hours out now so must simply be a bit sh1t!Mark Phillips wrote: ↑Fri Feb 24 2023 18:46 -Yeh, you need to up your game , Alancookiesdaughtersdad wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20 2023 21:22 -"Zander stocks are low" If you're talking about the river system I think you are, then OK, they're not as numerous as they once were; but quality has replaced quantity, and there's still good numbers of zander about. We never struggle to catch them when we target them on baits or luresWhat do you guys (or should I say thems?) find the best/worst conditions? the only thing I can say through personal experience is night time and particularly moonlit nights for being good. The zander stocks here are low so its tricky to make any conclusions about why I dont catch and its certainly not for lack of rod hours!
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