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Dave R wrote: ↑Tue Dec 26 2023 23:13 -but not all genuine capturesNot sure how this ended but apparently MB got off the hook.
I’m not into comics but I tend to buy the Christmas edition of “Angling Times” out of curiousity and for a summary of annual events. MB’s 4 page spread was essentially an extended advert for his new media venture, with some pics of Norwegian cod to draw us in. How times have changed. I still recall Andy Little’s weekly features in “Angler’s Mail” - they were genuinely informative.
charleston16 wrote: ↑Thu Dec 28 2023 08:16 -David Hall and ‘great’ in one sentence- that’s a first….I stopped buying angling mags when the great David Hall past away...
squimp wrote: ↑Thu Dec 28 2023 11:44 -I take it you were not a fan then ?charleston16 wrote: ↑Thu Dec 28 2023 08:16 -David Hall and ‘great’ in one sentence- that’s a first….I stopped buying angling mags when the great David Hall past away...
charleston16 wrote: ↑Thu Dec 28 2023 12:56 -Some of his magazines were excellent and so were some of his videos.squimp wrote: ↑Thu Dec 28 2023 11:44 -I take it you were not a fan then ?charleston16 wrote: ↑Thu Dec 28 2023 08:16 -David Hall and ‘great’ in one sentence- that’s a first….I stopped buying angling mags when the great David Hall past away...
squimp wrote: ↑Thu Dec 28 2023 13:17 -You obviously knew him quite well, to me he came across as a gent, always had time fot you and always have a chat.charleston16 wrote: ↑Thu Dec 28 2023 12:56 -Some of his magazines were excellent and so were some of his videos.squimp wrote: ↑Thu Dec 28 2023 11:44 -I take it you were not a fan then ?charleston16 wrote: ↑Thu Dec 28 2023 08:16 -David Hall and ‘great’ in one sentence- that’s a first….I stopped buying angling mags when the great David Hall past away...
But certain of his financial dealings were questionable to say the least.
Dave Horton wrote: ↑Thu Jan 25 2024 12:22 -Was there any access to the water closer to the place of unhooking were the fish could have been returned sooner?This whole sorry saga says as much about other peoples natures as it does about MB himself? The apparent pleasure some get out of the initial disclosure and the need others feel to share it further and the drivers behind making the video in the first place and then the decision to share publicly paint unpleasant pictures of their own? Now, I'm no saint and I'm as flawed as the next man and more so than some but I do kinda live by the "Do unto others ...." mind set and when I myself video'd a very well known Piker, (VERY close to home) realise he'd left his forceps in his truck, carry a Pike by the chin, over the high bank into the car park, perhaps 50 yards to his vehicle and retrieve them before carrying the Pike back by the chin and unhooking and returning the Pike seemingly no worse for wear? I was at the time on the opposite side of the venue so couldn't assist but I clocked what was going on and decided to video it. Now, this particular fella had been VERY instrumental in the character assassination of another fairly well known Piker (it's his MO) who had carried a Pike 50 odd yards into a car park at some venue and photo'd it there as I recall? Firstly I had to ask myself quite why I decided to video it (we don't like each other very much and he seemingly grabs every opportunity to dig me out) and I take exception to hypocrites! Secondly, I had to ask myself what I'd have done (I'd have put it back in the net or if hooks were exposed I'd have put it back in the margin and tethered it to a rod rest or the like I think)? Finally I had to ask myself if I'd like myself quite so much if I'd shared the video publicly? What I chose to do was delete it and until now I've only ever told 1 person about it too. He'll read this and he'll recall the episode too and I hope it gives him cause to reflect though I doubt it very much?
(Glass houses and stones face)
Bob Barker wrote: ↑Thu Jan 25 2024 15:52 -Nope Bob and to be honest I never felt the fella taking the picture of a Pike 50 yards from the water was the end of the world either!Dave Horton wrote: ↑Thu Jan 25 2024 12:22 -Was there any access to the water closer to the place of unhooking were the fish could have been returned sooner?This whole sorry saga says as much about other peoples natures as it does about MB himself? The apparent pleasure some get out of the initial disclosure and the need others feel to share it further and the drivers behind making the video in the first place and then the decision to share publicly paint unpleasant pictures of their own? Now, I'm no saint and I'm as flawed as the next man and more so than some but I do kinda live by the "Do unto others ...." mind set and when I myself video'd a very well known Piker, (VERY close to home) realise he'd left his forceps in his truck, carry a Pike by the chin, over the high bank into the car park, perhaps 50 yards to his vehicle and retrieve them before carrying the Pike back by the chin and unhooking and returning the Pike seemingly no worse for wear? I was at the time on the opposite side of the venue so couldn't assist but I clocked what was going on and decided to video it. Now, this particular fella had been VERY instrumental in the character assassination of another fairly well known Piker (it's his MO) who had carried a Pike 50 odd yards into a car park at some venue and photo'd it there as I recall? Firstly I had to ask myself quite why I decided to video it (we don't like each other very much and he seemingly grabs every opportunity to dig me out) and I take exception to hypocrites! Secondly, I had to ask myself what I'd have done (I'd have put it back in the net or if hooks were exposed I'd have put it back in the margin and tethered it to a rod rest or the like I think)? Finally I had to ask myself if I'd like myself quite so much if I'd shared the video publicly? What I chose to do was delete it and until now I've only ever told 1 person about it too. He'll read this and he'll recall the episode too and I hope it gives him cause to reflect though I doubt it very much?
(Glass houses and stones face)
(But was not/or was)
Dave Horton wrote: ↑Thu Jan 25 2024 12:22 -Sounds like a right Wally ?This whole sorry saga says as much about other peoples natures as it does about MB himself? The apparent pleasure some get out of the initial disclosure and the need others feel to share it further and the drivers behind making the video in the first place and then the decision to share publicly paint unpleasant pictures of their own? Now, I'm no saint and I'm as flawed as the next man and more so than some but I do kinda live by the "Do unto others ...." mind set and when I myself video'd a very well known Piker, (VERY close to home) realise he'd left his forceps in his truck, carry a Pike by the chin, over the high bank into the car park, perhaps 50 yards to his vehicle and retrieve them before carrying the Pike back by the chin and unhooking and returning the Pike seemingly no worse for wear? I was at the time on the opposite side of the venue so couldn't assist but I clocked what was going on and decided to video it. Now, this particular fella had been VERY instrumental in the character assassination of another fairly well known Piker (it's his MO) who had carried a Pike 50 odd yards into a car park at some venue and photo'd it there as I recall? Firstly I had to ask myself quite why I decided to video it (we don't like each other very much and he seemingly grabs every opportunity to dig me out) and I take exception to hypocrites! Secondly, I had to ask myself what I'd have done (I'd have put it back in the net or if hooks were exposed I'd have put it back in the margin and tethered it to a rod rest or the like I think)? Finally I had to ask myself if I'd like myself quite so much if I'd shared the video publicly? What I chose to do was delete it and until now I've only ever told 1 person about it too. He'll read this and he'll recall the episode too and I hope it gives him cause to reflect though I doubt it very much?
(Glass houses and stones face)
ROBBO90 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 25 2024 20:29 -noticed that on peoples pike photos , there out there in summer not autumn or winter .....thick as f**k some peopleJust seen a Nash YouTube vid with Bowler fishing for carp in the depths of winter. the vid is titled Martin Bowler Winter float fishing for carp. He's all togged up in his winter clothing trying to haul out unfished for carp. Unfortunately someone in the film crew forgot to check the landscape they were in. There is NOT one leaf missing from any of the trees. It looks like the middle of summer. He must be a real southern softy, cus up't north we are still fishing in shorts and tee shirts and it's nearly Feb.
andrew_nagel wrote: ↑Sun Feb 04 2024 21:12 -Exactly Andrew!There's those that make a living from angling and those that have it as their hobby. There's bullshiters and cheats in both camps. I don't tend to feel cheated by the hobby bullshiters - just fantasists or attention seekers with an odd sense of self esteem. I feel cheated by the professional anglers/tackle promoting bullshiters, but don't lose any sleep over it. I understand the need to earn a salary, and that it will put them in situations that might compromise their honesty. We've all told a porky at work before I'm guessing. It must be a nightmare to be a face.
mike anderson wrote: ↑Sun Feb 04 2024 15:30 -Does.Dave Horton wrote: ↑Thu Jan 25 2024 12:22 -Sounds like a right Wally ?This whole sorry saga says as much about other peoples natures as it does about MB himself? The apparent pleasure some get out of the initial disclosure and the need others feel to share it further and the drivers behind making the video in the first place and then the decision to share publicly paint unpleasant pictures of their own? Now, I'm no saint and I'm as flawed as the next man and more so than some but I do kinda live by the "Do unto others ...." mind set and when I myself video'd a very well known Piker, (VERY close to home) realise he'd left his forceps in his truck, carry a Pike by the chin, over the high bank into the car park, perhaps 50 yards to his vehicle and retrieve them before carrying the Pike back by the chin and unhooking and returning the Pike seemingly no worse for wear? I was at the time on the opposite side of the venue so couldn't assist but I clocked what was going on and decided to video it. Now, this particular fella had been VERY instrumental in the character assassination of another fairly well known Piker (it's his MO) who had carried a Pike 50 odd yards into a car park at some venue and photo'd it there as I recall? Firstly I had to ask myself quite why I decided to video it (we don't like each other very much and he seemingly grabs every opportunity to dig me out) and I take exception to hypocrites! Secondly, I had to ask myself what I'd have done (I'd have put it back in the net or if hooks were exposed I'd have put it back in the margin and tethered it to a rod rest or the like I think)? Finally I had to ask myself if I'd like myself quite so much if I'd shared the video publicly? What I chose to do was delete it and until now I've only ever told 1 person about it too. He'll read this and he'll recall the episode too and I hope it gives him cause to reflect though I doubt it very much?
(Glass houses and stones face)
ROBBO90 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 25 2024 20:29 -Just taken a look at that. Seems like the leaves are just starting to turn so late September maybe? One of the very best times to catch carp in my experience.Just seen a Nash YouTube vid with Bowler fishing for carp in the depths of winter. the vid is titled Martin Bowler Winter float fishing for carp. He's all togged up in his winter clothing trying to haul out unfished for carp. Unfortunately someone in the film crew forgot to check the landscape they were in. There is NOT one leaf missing from any of the trees. It looks like the middle of summer. He must be a real southern softy, cus up't north we are still fishing in shorts and tee shirts and it's nearly Feb.
Luke wrote: ↑Mon Feb 05 2024 16:29 -I like the bit where he says ‘ the owner tells me there’s some carp in here’ - making it sound a mysterious place when in reality it’s a £100 a 24hr carp lake!ROBBO90 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 25 2024 20:29 -Just taken a look at that. Seems like the leaves are just starting to turn so late September maybe? One of the very best times to catch carp in my experience.Just seen a Nash YouTube vid with Bowler fishing for carp in the depths of winter. the vid is titled Martin Bowler Winter float fishing for carp. He's all togged up in his winter clothing trying to haul out unfished for carp. Unfortunately someone in the film crew forgot to check the landscape they were in. There is NOT one leaf missing from any of the trees. It looks like the middle of summer. He must be a real southern softy, cus up't north we are still fishing in shorts and tee shirts and it's nearly Feb.
I guess the reasoning is they film these things early in order to give them time to edit and release the film at a more appropriate time? That particular video is very weird though.