Cheesepaste

[Chris Hammond]

I spent a bit of time getting bait ready today while it chucked it down with rain. As it was raining I topped up the cheesepaste. I thought I'd have a tweak as well so knocked up my usual stilton paste and a couple of variations, I did one with added salt, garlic puree and cayenne pepper, and another of about a third corned beef to stilton paste. I make my paste with fresh white bread crumb.

Anybody else got recipes or methods for cheesepaste they'd care to share?

[Bob Watson]

Pretty much the same, fresh white liquidised bread, a 50/50 mix of strong cheddar and Danish blue, garlic puree and I've messed about adding chilli flakes, hot chilli sauce etc.

Maybe mix a tin of tuna or anchovies into it, that may give it an edge

I don't think it matters as long as it stinks and you put it in front of a fish.

I keep away from the pastry recipes, it goes rock hard in cold water and it just isn't right IMO.

[cookiesdaughtersdad]

Tended to use all cheese in the past, a combination of smelly, hard and soft cheeses to get a bait that will not go hard in cold water and still smell a bit after its been out there.
Been a long time since I have made some so forget the exact ratios but this tread has given me some ideas so thanks!

Cheers, Alan

[Chris Hammond]

Pretty much the same, fresh white liquidised bread, a 50/50 mix of strong cheddar and Danish blue, garlic puree and I've messed about adding chilli flakes, hot chilli sauce etc.

Maybe mix a tin of tuna or anchovies into it, that may give it an edge

I don't think it matters as long as it stinks and you put it in front of a fish.

I keep away from the pastry recipes, it goes rock hard in cold water and it just isn't right IMO.

I was striking mine off today so the consistency is about right but I would think another degree or two drop in water temp and it might be a little firmer than I'd ideally like it to be. I was hoping someone might have come up with an additive that would soften it a little.

Didn't make any difference today, I couldn't get a bite on anything.

[Chris Hammond]

Tended to use all cheese in the past, a combination of smelly, hard and soft cheeses to get a bait that will not go hard in cold water and still smell a bit after its been out there.
Been a long time since I have made some so forget the exact ratios but this tread has given me some ideas so thanks!

Cheers, Alan

Thanks Alan I have some Bert Epoisses in the fridge so I'm going to try a little in the mix next session. It's a soft and smelly cheese so might help in colder water.

[stubbojo]

found a nice little run off ,on one of my venues ,theres some nice chub in there , any tips on catching them , baits , Technics , rods etc ,
the river is about 10ft wide , not had a walk down it yet , but will have ago , not fished many small rivers ..float or ledger...

[Bob Watson]

found a nice little run off ,on one of my venues ,theres some nice chub in there , any tips on catching them , baits , Technics , rods etc ,
the river is about 10ft wide , not had a walk down it yet , but will have ago , not fished many small rivers ..float or ledger...

When you hit into a chub, keep it coming your way especially on a small water where the shortest run will see it in snag city. Don't let them turn and don't give them an inch.

I was told this by an old fellah whilst fishing the Anker years ago and it was sound advice in my experience.

[spincityfan]

Made some this morning after reading this thread and caught a 3lb Chub! Had plenty of bites but I was probably striking too soon and not letting the bites develop.

Just used half a loaf of bread, crusts removed and blitzed. Half a pack of Stilton and a good chunk of strong Cheddar grated and all mashed together with a knob of margarine.

[cookiesdaughtersdad]

Made some this morning after reading this thread and caught a 3lb Chub! Had plenty of bites but I was probably striking too soon and not letting the bites develop.

Just used half a loaf of bread, crusts removed and blitzed. Half a pack of Stilton and a good chunk of strong Cheddar grated and all mashed together with a knob of margarine.

If you are missing bites from winter chub they may be "lippers" and not sucking at the bait, they can be right gits when feeding like this.
What I found was using a smallish hook and bait bait and longish hooklink changed the taps and fast pulls into nice steady pull rounds
Now the fish cant pick at the bait so easily and so have to suck it up, these slight mods transformed my catches on the Great Ouse.

Cheers, Alan

[cookiesdaughtersdad]

Tended to use all cheese in the past, a combination of smelly, hard and soft cheeses to get a bait that will not go hard in cold water and still smell a bit after its been out there.
Been a long time since I have made some so forget the exact ratios but this tread has given me some ideas so thanks!

Cheers, Alan

Thanks Alan I have some Bert Epoisses in the fridge so I'm going to try a little in the mix next session. It's a soft and smelly cheese so might help in colder water.

A good coldwater paste can still feel almost waxy after being fished for a while rather than bullet like, even better if you can still smell it so the cold hasn't locket all the attraction up!

Cheers, Alan

[d roberts]

Add one of these - https://www.ocado.com/products/boursin- ... lsrc=aw.ds

[Stewlaws]

I have a few jars of lumpfish caviar (roe) to put into a blend, few jars that were out of date in the cupboard, but this is in mind for some estuary mullet and bread mash...

[Stewlaws]

Bought my partner a dehydrator which can be used to dehydrate cheeses to enable it to be powdered .. was reading up on various products you can play with, I would think a mix with powder would be a potential edge on a bait mix?

[spincityfan]

Made some this morning after reading this thread and caught a 3lb Chub! Had plenty of bites but I was probably striking too soon and not letting the bites develop.

Just used half a loaf of bread, crusts removed and blitzed. Half a pack of Stilton and a good chunk of strong Cheddar grated and all mashed together with a knob of margarine.

If you are missing bites from winter chub they may be "lippers" and not sucking at the bait, they can be right gits when feeding like this.
What I found was using a smallish hook and bait bait and longish hooklink changed the taps and fast pulls into nice steady pull rounds
Now the fish cant pick at the bait so easily and so have to suck it up, these slight mods transformed my catches on the Great Ouse.

Cheers, Alan

Thanks for the advice Alan

I'll make sure I have a pack of size 10s in my bag next time.

[Chris Hammond]

found a nice little run off ,on one of my venues ,theres some nice chub in there , any tips on catching them , baits , Technics , rods etc ,
the river is about 10ft wide , not had a walk down it yet , but will have ago , not fished many small rivers ..float or ledger...

When you hit into a chub, keep it coming your way especially on a small water where the shortest run will see it in snag city. Don't let them turn and don't give them an inch.

I was told this by an old fellah whilst fishing the Anker years ago and it was sound advice in my experience.

They ought to make that the first rule of chub club!

[Chris Hammond]

I have a few jars of lumpfish caviar (roe) to put into a blend, few jars that were out of date in the cupboard, but this is in mind for some estuary mullet and bread mash...

I liquidized some fresh mackerel and mixed it with ground up halibut pellets as an attractor for a recent beach trip Stew
.
It made a nice hookbait paste so I've put it in the chub armory!

[Chris Hammond]

Add one of these - https://www.ocado.com/products/boursin- ... lsrc=aw.ds

Funnily enough that's the first thing that came to mind when I read Cookies's post. I hadn't really considered a softer cheese. I suppose it's obvious really.

[stubbojo]

I spent a bit of time getting bait ready today while it chucked it down with rain. As it was raining I topped up the cheesepaste. I thought I'd have a tweak as well so knocked up my usual stilton paste and a couple of variations, I did one with added salt, garlic puree and cayenne pepper, and another of about a third corned beef to stilton paste. I make my paste with fresh white bread crumb.

Anybody else got recipes or methods for cheesepaste they'd care to share?

sounds good...... i could eat them myself.

[Chris Hammond]

I spent a bit of time getting bait ready today while it chucked it down with rain. As it was raining I topped up the cheesepaste. I thought I'd have a tweak as well so knocked up my usual stilton paste and a couple of variations, I did one with added salt, garlic puree and cayenne pepper, and another of about a third corned beef to stilton paste. I make my paste with fresh white bread crumb.

Anybody else got recipes or methods for cheesepaste they'd care to share?

sounds good...... i could eat them myself.

Yes there is an element of sacrifice on my behalf. I'm a complete cheese addict.

[Bob Watson]

Made some this morning after reading this thread and caught a 3lb Chub! Had plenty of bites but I was probably striking too soon and not letting the bites develop.

Just used half a loaf of bread, crusts removed and blitzed. Half a pack of Stilton and a good chunk of strong Cheddar grated and all mashed together with a knob of margarine.

If you are missing bites from winter chub they may be "lippers" and not sucking at the bait, they can be right gits when feeding like this.
What I found was using a smallish hook and bait bait and longish hooklink changed the taps and fast pulls into nice steady pull rounds
Now the fish cant pick at the bait so easily and so have to suck it up, these slight mods transformed my catches on the Great Ouse.

Cheers, Alan

Thanks for the advice Alan

I'll make sure I have a pack of size 10s in my bag next time.

I go the polar opposite, size 2 super specialist with the hook point exposed. 99% of my paste fishing is freelined. I let the current take it where it will until it settles.

I thought I posted about the hook size earlier mustn't have hit submit

[Mick Cobb]

Tended to use all cheese in the past, a combination of smelly, hard and soft cheeses to get a bait that will not go hard in cold water and still smell a bit after its been out there.
Been a long time since I have made some so forget the exact ratios but this tread has given me some ideas so thanks!

Cheers, Alan

Adding a small amount of vodka to a mix with prevent it going hard in cold conditions.

[Chris Hammond]

Tended to use all cheese in the past, a combination of smelly, hard and soft cheeses to get a bait that will not go hard in cold water and still smell a bit after its been out there.
Been a long time since I have made some so forget the exact ratios but this tread has given me some ideas so thanks!

Cheers, Alan

Adding a small amount of vodka to a mix with prevent it going hard in cold conditions.

As an emulsifier Mick?

[dave aylett]

Chris
If you want to soften it for cold water - then a tiny drop of olive oil.

[Mike J]

I spent a bit of time getting bait ready today while it chucked it down with rain. As it was raining I topped up the cheesepaste. I thought I'd have a tweak as well so knocked up my usual stilton paste and a couple of variations, I did one with added salt, garlic puree and cayenne pepper, and another of about a third corned beef to stilton paste. I make my paste with fresh white bread crumb.

Anybody else got recipes or methods for cheesepaste they'd care to share?

Camembert Cheese, left in the shed until it can walk out on its own. Slabs of supermarket frozen puff pastry. Tablespoon of sugar and another of salt. Knead it all into a ball, divide into 4, wrap in cling film and freeze.
Moulded around a bit of wire or thread attached to the hook bend, it catches chub and also grayling.
What I don't use a refreeze, it lasts for years and still catches.

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[Chris Hammond]

Chris
If you want to soften it for cold water - then a tiny drop of olive oil.

Thanks Dave I'll give that a go sometime.

[Chris Hammond]

I spent a bit of time getting bait ready today while it chucked it down with rain. As it was raining I topped up the cheesepaste. I thought I'd have a tweak as well so knocked up my usual stilton paste and a couple of variations, I did one with added salt, garlic puree and cayenne pepper, and another of about a third corned beef to stilton paste. I make my paste with fresh white bread crumb.

Anybody else got recipes or methods for cheesepaste they'd care to share?

Camembert Cheese, left in the shed until it can walk out on its own. Slabs of supermarket frozen puff pastry. Tablespoon of sugar and another of salt. Knead it all into a ball, divide into 4, wrap in cling film and freeze.
Moulded around a bit of wire or thread attached to the hook bend, it catches chub and also grayling.
What I don't use a refreeze, it lasts for years and still catches.

.

I achieved a similar effect with some Bert Epoisses left over from Christmas Mike. I don't know if you are familiar with it but if you are a fan of cheese you really should try it. Room temperature with a nice crunchy Cox's or some fresh green grapes, it's manner from heaven!

[Chris Hammond]

Ps I dont throw any of my cheese paste concoctions away and unless it's the close season I dont freeze them. I find the more it honks the better.

[Chris Hammond]

Made some this morning after reading this thread and caught a 3lb Chub! Had plenty of bites but I was probably striking too soon and not letting the bites develop.

Just used half a loaf of bread, crusts removed and blitzed. Half a pack of Stilton and a good chunk of strong Cheddar grated and all mashed together with a knob of margarine.

If you are missing bites from winter chub they may be "lippers" and not sucking at the bait, they can be right gits when feeding like this.
What I found was using a smallish hook and bait bait and longish hooklink changed the taps and fast pulls into nice steady pull rounds
Now the fish cant pick at the bait so easily and so have to suck it up, these slight mods transformed my catches on the Great Ouse.

Cheers, Alan

Thanks for the advice Alan

I'll make sure I have a pack of size 10s in my bag next time.

I go the polar opposite, size 2 super specialist with the hook point exposed. 99% of my paste fishing is freelined. I let the current take it where it will until it settles.

I thought I posted about the hook size earlier mustn't have hit submit

Size 2 for me too Bob. I form a gob stopper sized ball around the hook then use the flat side of a knife to press a gap between the hook point and cheese so the whole of the gape is exposed.

[Bob Watson]

Made some this morning after reading this thread and caught a 3lb Chub! Had plenty of bites but I was probably striking too soon and not letting the bites develop.

Just used half a loaf of bread, crusts removed and blitzed. Half a pack of Stilton and a good chunk of strong Cheddar grated and all mashed together with a knob of margarine.

If you are missing bites from winter chub they may be "lippers" and not sucking at the bait, they can be right gits when feeding like this.
What I found was using a smallish hook and bait bait and longish hooklink changed the taps and fast pulls into nice steady pull rounds
Now the fish cant pick at the bait so easily and so have to suck it up, these slight mods transformed my catches on the Great Ouse.

Cheers, Alan

Thanks for the advice Alan

I'll make sure I have a pack of size 10s in my bag next time.

I go the polar opposite, size 2 super specialist with the hook point exposed. 99% of my paste fishing is freelined. I let the current take it where it will until it settles.

I thought I posted about the hook size earlier mustn't have hit submit

Size 2 for me too Bob. I form a gob stopper sized ball around the hook then use the flat side of a knife to press a gap between the hook point and cheese so the whole of the gape is exposed.

I'll try that, I just mould the paste around the hook and mess about until the point is exposed. That's why I don't use any fats in it, to minimise the chances of it going hard and to be able to strike through it.

[stubbojo]

Tended to use all cheese in the past, a combination of smelly, hard and soft cheeses to get a bait that will not go hard in cold water and still smell a bit after its been out there.
Been a long time since I have made some so forget the exact ratios but this tread has given me some ideas so thanks!

Cheers, Alan

Adding a small amount of vodka to a mix with prevent it going hard in cold conditions.

As an emulsifier Mick?

no....... to drink on the bank to drown me sorrows when i catch nowt....