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I asked a simple question about Fickers paper on zander protection on Angling Trust face book page---this is what I got as a reply, something to hide perhaps
Neville Fickling - Mart it’s already in process I presented a paper on behalf of zac to Angling Trust ref getting zander protection as our other coarse fish. CCG done the same for cats
Kev Berry - wasnt that some time ago Nev? any updates on that?
Neville Fickling - The cat fish is being dealt with first
Kev Berry - why not both at the same time?
Neville Fickling - Don’t ask me. They need to do a risk assessment assume whoever’s doing it can’t do both at once
Kev Berry - So who do we ask then?
Neville Fickling - Zac are dealing with it Kev
Kev Berry ZAC-so thats you and Phil then?
Neville Fickling - Bugger off
Neville Fickling - Mart it’s already in process I presented a paper on behalf of zac to Angling Trust ref getting zander protection as our other coarse fish. CCG done the same for cats
Kev Berry - wasnt that some time ago Nev? any updates on that?
Neville Fickling - The cat fish is being dealt with first
Kev Berry - why not both at the same time?
Neville Fickling - Don’t ask me. They need to do a risk assessment assume whoever’s doing it can’t do both at once
Kev Berry - So who do we ask then?
Neville Fickling - Zac are dealing with it Kev
Kev Berry ZAC-so thats you and Phil then?
Neville Fickling - Bugger off
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Typical Kev causing trouble for no reason at all. That's why i said bugger off to him. The Angling Trust are dealing with it and if Kev is a member or not i'm sure if he asks Mark Owen at the Trust he will fill Kev in.
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Neville Fickling wrote: ↑Sat Dec 02 2017 14:52 -I wasn't causing no trouble at all---I asked if there was an update and you became evasive then abusive---so are you hiding something Neville, after all its the ZAC (ie you and Phil) that's sorting it so why couldn't you answer?Typical Kev causing trouble for no reason at all. That's why i said bugger off to him. The Angling Trust are dealing with it and if Kev is a member or not i'm sure if he asks Mark Owen at the Trust he will fill Kev in.
After the last fuk up where you supposedly spoke for everyone,-----but didn't consult with anyone over the 3m distance between rod butts before accepting it, I'm ever so slightly suspicious of anything you do on a national basis.
Yes I am a member of AT both club wise and individual---but that's stopping when it runs out.
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Kev Berry wrote: ↑Sat Dec 02 2017 15:32 -Who was exactly responsible for that rule then? I also wonder if they themselves ever break it?Neville Fickling wrote: ↑Sat Dec 02 2017 14:52 -I wasn't causing no trouble at all---I asked if there was an update and you became evasive then abusive---so are you hiding something Neville, after all its the ZAC (ie you and Phil) that's sorting it so why couldn't you answer?Typical Kev causing trouble for no reason at all. That's why i said bugger off to him. The Angling Trust are dealing with it and if Kev is a member or not i'm sure if he asks Mark Owen at the Trust he will fill Kev in.
After the last fuk up where you supposedly spoke for everyone,-----but didn't consult with anyone over the 3m distance between rod butts before accepting it, I'm ever so slightly suspicious of anything you do on a national basis.
Yes I am a member of AT both club wise and individual---but that's stopping when it runs out.
They must have been loving each other up with how much they care for fish when that one was passed
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Well shows you how much you know Kev. The rod limit negotiations were carried out by PAC/NASA ( possibly SACG) and they were given an ultimatum the 3m limit or no universal 4 rod limit. It was considered that the 3M limit was worth accepting rather than lose the changes that almost everyone wanted. I tackled my boss at fisheries ( when I worked there) Kathryn Bryan and I tackled her very directly. She wouldn't help in any way and I was a marked man after that. Women in power do not like to be challenged. I take extreme offence at the suggestion that I have something to hide and i only became abusive ( I'm sure you've had far worse) when you start questioning my scruples. If you act like a nasty little man you cant expect love and affection I'm afraid.
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Neville Fickling wrote: ↑Sat Dec 02 2017 17:03 -well Ive been told a different version of the story and the story is you gave in with hardly a whimper ---but like I said there was no consultation with anyone as to what was acceptable to US--- not just you or anyone else on the PAC committee, whats the use of 4 pike rods if they have to be within a 3m line?Well shows you how much you know Kev. The rod limit negotiations were carried out by PAC/NASA ( possibly SACG) and they were given an ultimatum the 3m limit or no universal 4 rod limit. It was considered that the 3M limit was worth accepting rather than lose the changes that almost everyone wanted. I tackled my boss at fisheries ( when I worked there) Kathryn Bryan and I tackled her very directly. She wouldn't help in any way and I was a marked man after that. Women in power do not like to be challenged. I take extreme offence at the suggestion that I have something to hide and i only became abusive ( I'm sure you've had far worse) when you start questioning my scruples. If you act like a nasty little man you cant expect love and affection I'm afraid.
You are not strong enough for tough negotiating Nev and cave in for an easy life from what I have heard from other people that have been involved with you
will you point out where I became abusive when I asked what the update was regarding zander protection? the only abuse was from you , and as for suggestions of having something to hide then why did you evade giving me a straight answer?
If you act like a shifty secretive little fecker you gonna get questioned I'm afraid
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This should make good reading for a Saturday night
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Well Kev I didn't suggest you were being abusive merely unpleasant. I can't recall you being involved in anything during those days so not much chance of your great wisdom was there? As to caving in well its pointless to try correcting that. You really are unpleasant.
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By that bloke what comes in your shop?well Ive been told a different version of the story...
Nev's story is the one I've heard from those who were involved in the negotiations. Pretty sure it was SACG who liaised with the EA in consultation with NASA, PAC etc. There were some factions within specialist angling who were/are against the use of more than two rods under any circumstances.
But I suppose you're a no deal is better than a deal sort of guy.
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Neville Fickling wrote: ↑Sat Dec 02 2017 17:56 -I wasn't unpleasant at all Neville, I asked a purely innocent and curious question, quite obviously one you didn't want asked and one you didn't want to answer---I suppose in your book that's being unpleasant. You were abusive because of that question for some reason.Well Kev I didn't suggest you were being abusive merely unpleasant. I can't recall you being involved in anything during those days so not much chance of your great wisdom was there? As to caving in well its pointless to try correcting that. You really are unpleasant.
Maybe you would like to say why you didn't want to answer it and instead deflect the question to someone else---even though its YOU (alias the ZAC) that's dealing with it
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I really can’t understand your problem Kev other than you like arguing. Zac are trying to get zander the same protection as the majority of our native species. Report submitted. Review in process. How hard is that?
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Neville Fickling wrote: ↑Sun Dec 03 2017 09:29 -Stop back tracking and read what I asked on that Facebook page.... I asked for an update and you got the a**e on because you didn't want to give one.I really can’t understand your problem Kev other than you like arguing. Zac are trying to get zander the same protection as the majority of our native species. Report submitted. Review in process. How hard is that?
Saying don't ask me as in I know feck all then next breath saying the Zac is dealing with it MEANING YOU are dealing with it...what a feckin clown
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Not a case of not wanting to tell you anything you make digs at what zac is trying to do and then expect to be taken seriously. As for clowns. That made me laugh.
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Neville Fickling wrote: ↑Sun Dec 03 2017 10:46 -Made digs now.....what a buffoon you are nev I made no digs at all...you made out you knew nothing..then said the Zac were dealing with it.Not a case of not wanting to tell you anything you make digs at what zac is trying to do and then expect to be taken seriously. As for clowns. That made me laugh.
In other words you didn't want to say anything
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The cimment you and Phil was a dig but I suppose I’d expect that from mr moan about everything do nothing
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Neville Fickling wrote: ↑Sun Dec 03 2017 14:01 -when I asked you said don't ask me---then I asked who do I ask then---then you said the ZAC are dealing with it---and that's when I said that's you and Phil then (because I was a tad confused by this point)---so who was being a t**t then nev, certainly not meThe cimment you and Phil was a dig but I suppose I’d expect that from mr moan about everything do nothing
what do you mean about "do nothing"?
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I give up if you want to read the submission join zac it’s in the mag
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Neville Fickling wrote: ↑Sun Dec 03 2017 16:41 -I asked you to expand on the "do nothing " comment ---if you wouldn't mindI give up if you want to read the submission join zac it’s in the mag
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Hahaha!
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Neville Fickling wrote: ↑Sun Dec 03 2017 20:25 -well if you wont explain your comment-------Just do as I said
(I think it shows the kind of person you are)
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Oh well you are always right as always and I see the poison dwarf was chipped in!
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Neville Fickling wrote: ↑Sun Dec 03 2017 21:56 -I havnt tried to be right about anything---all boils down to you being your usual self centeredness and keeping everything to yourselfOh well you are always right as always and I see the poison dwarf was chipped in!
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Hilarious. if you are that concerned join ZAC and get the mag but you won't waste a fiver will you!
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I cant see what he's saying but from other replies its just same as usual then ?
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Neville Fickling wrote: ↑Mon Dec 04 2017 12:02 -Hilarious. if you are that concerned join ZAC and get the mag but you won't waste a fiver will you!
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If you say so then I'll take your word for it. :)
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Neville Fickling wrote: ↑Mon Dec 04 2017 12:02 -whats buying the mag got to do with it---always pushing your mag salesHilarious. if you are that concerned join ZAC and get the mag but you won't waste a fiver will you!
seeing as the zac (ie you) are doing things on a national basis it should be shared nationally---shouldn't have to buy anything to find out what is happening.
So why don't you spill the beans on here about what has happened since you lodged the paperwork----because that's all I asked for till you started being a prize knob as usual