Making a centerpin reel
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- Roach
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Making a centerpin reel
For no good reason I've been thinking of making a centrepin reel. I remember references in old articles to people making them and wondered if anyone new of any plans that are available? I'll probably come up with my own design for a pike centrepin but it would be interesting to see what other have done.
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- Jack Pike
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Re: Making a centerpin reel
Not really a centre pin as it doesn’t have a centre pin. But looks like a centre pin.
I do have another home made one made out of carbon. I’ll try to find it.
I do have another home made one made out of carbon. I’ll try to find it.
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- Barbel
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Re: Making a centerpin reel
Bucks Andy wrote: ↑Mon Mar 04 2024 18:54 -Needle roller bearings?Not really a centre pin as it doesn’t have a centre pin. But looks like a centre pin.
I do have another home made one made out of carbon. I’ll try to find it.
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Re: Making a centerpin reel
Stewlaws wrote: ↑Mon Mar 04 2024 20:24 -No. Guess again.Bucks Andy wrote: ↑Mon Mar 04 2024 18:54 -Needle roller bearings?Not really a centre pin as it doesn’t have a centre pin. But looks like a centre pin.
I do have another home made one made out of carbon. I’ll try to find it.
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- Barbel
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Re: Making a centerpin reel
Bucks Andy wrote: ↑Mon Mar 04 2024 20:31 -2 opposing thrust needles on the outer face?Stewlaws wrote: ↑Mon Mar 04 2024 20:24 -No. Guess again.Bucks Andy wrote: ↑Mon Mar 04 2024 18:54 -Needle roller bearings?Not really a centre pin as it doesn’t have a centre pin. But looks like a centre pin.
I do have another home made one made out of carbon. I’ll try to find it.
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- Jack Pike
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Re: Making a centerpin reel
Stewlaws wrote: ↑Mon Mar 04 2024 21:43 -Getting colder.Bucks Andy wrote: ↑Mon Mar 04 2024 20:31 -2 opposing thrust needles on the outer face?Stewlaws wrote: ↑Mon Mar 04 2024 20:24 -No. Guess again.Bucks Andy wrote: ↑Mon Mar 04 2024 18:54 -Needle roller bearings?Not really a centre pin as it doesn’t have a centre pin. But looks like a centre pin.
I do have another home made one made out of carbon. I’ll try to find it.
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- Roach
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Re: Making a centerpin reel
Centreless sidecast...
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Re: Making a centerpin reel
Unlikely but maybe some kind of low friction bushing like an engine crankshaft ????
or two ball races with tiny ball bearings?
if it spins ok its very cool.
or two ball races with tiny ball bearings?
if it spins ok its very cool.
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- Roach
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Re: Making a centerpin reel
Ball bearings running in circular (obviously) channels - not sure of the engineering term.
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Re: Making a centerpin reel
Well if their not Cylindrical Roller Bearings,
I guess as you have made them Andy,
And I do remember the carbon ones from before
(But I couldn’t find the pic)
Only you would attempt Fluid Bearings
(And get away with it face)
I guess as you have made them Andy,
And I do remember the carbon ones from before
(But I couldn’t find the pic)
Only you would attempt Fluid Bearings
(And get away with it face)
Andy Carpenter
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- Jack Pike
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Re: Making a centerpin reel
Cyprio wrote: ↑Mon Mar 04 2024 23:36 -I have another one that is half finished. I’ll photograph it tomorrow to put you out of your misery.Well if their not Cylindrical Roller Bearings,
I guess as you have made them Andy,
And I do remember the carbon ones from before
(But I couldn’t find the pic)
Only you would attempt Fluid Bearings
(And get away with it face)
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- Roach
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Re: Making a centerpin reel
Several radial ball bearings for the spool to run on...
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- Jack Pike
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Re: Making a centerpin reel
8 x 8mm bearings.
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Re: Making a centerpin reel
Very nice! What stops the spool slippimg off? Would flanged bearings work? Or a ledge on the spool?
Sorry, thinking out loud - excellent work.
Sorry, thinking out loud - excellent work.
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Re: Making a centerpin reel
Was this made against a set of plans or off the hoof? Interesting design, wondering why the bearings sit at 180d as opposed to 90d for balancing and equilibrium ? Nice work, how long will it 'bat' for when spun?
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Re: Making a centerpin reel
Is there a reason why you never used Needle bearings .. which on the face of it would appear a more fluid option?
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Re: Making a centerpin reel
Stewlaws wrote: ↑Tue Mar 05 2024 19:02 -It was made up as I went along. There are 4 bearings at the top of the spool and 4 at the bottom all at 90 degrees.Was this made against a set of plans or off the hoof? Interesting design, wondering why the bearings sit at 180d as opposed to 90d for balancing and equilibrium ? Nice work, how long will it 'bat' for when spun?
It spins ok. Not as good as a reel with a pin in the middle but would pull a drifter vane out ok.
Be ok for barbel I would think.
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Re: Making a centerpin reel
Stewlaws wrote: ↑Tue Mar 05 2024 19:07 -Had a play with needle bearings didn’t spin as good as the finished one.Is there a reason why you never used Needle bearings .. which on the face of it would appear a more fluid option?
Also made a ball race that housed around 30 ball bearings.
That worked ok. But when you took the spool off all the bearings fell out.
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Re: Making a centerpin reel
Bucks Andy wrote: ↑Tue Mar 05 2024 19:50 -Nicely done Andy, was this a garden shed build with a small lathe or do you have access to work related shop? I admire anyone who can manufacture, Alun MilLyard is a guy who can work magic on a lathe.Stewlaws wrote: ↑Tue Mar 05 2024 19:02 -It was made up as I went along. There are 4 bearings at the top of the spool and 4 at the bottom all at 90 degrees.Was this made against a set of plans or off the hoof? Interesting design, wondering why the bearings sit at 180d as opposed to 90d for balancing and equilibrium ? Nice work, how long will it 'bat' for when spun?
It spins ok. Not as good as a reel with a pin in the middle but would pull a drifter vane out ok.
Be ok for barbel I would think.
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Re: Making a centerpin reel
Bucks Andy wrote: ↑Tue Mar 05 2024 19:54 -IIRC the Cortesi pin was needle, budget reel but worked OK, have you pictures on the carbon one?Stewlaws wrote: ↑Tue Mar 05 2024 19:07 -Had a play with needle bearings didn’t spin as good as the finished one.Is there a reason why you never used Needle bearings .. which on the face of it would appear a more fluid option?
Also made a ball race that housed around 30 ball bearings.
That worked ok. But when you took the spool off all the bearings fell out.
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- Jack Pike
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Re: Making a centerpin reel
Stewlaws wrote: ↑Tue Mar 05 2024 19:55 -It was turned on a 35 year old myford lathe and drilled on an equally old Bridgeport mill.Bucks Andy wrote: ↑Tue Mar 05 2024 19:50 -Nicely done Andy, was this a garden shed build with a small lathe or do you have access to work related shop? I admire anyone who can manufacture, Alun MilLyard is a guy who can work magic on a lathe.Stewlaws wrote: ↑Tue Mar 05 2024 19:02 -It was made up as I went along. There are 4 bearings at the top of the spool and 4 at the bottom all at 90 degrees.Was this made against a set of plans or off the hoof? Interesting design, wondering why the bearings sit at 180d as opposed to 90d for balancing and equilibrium ? Nice work, how long will it 'bat' for when spun?
It spins ok. Not as good as a reel with a pin in the middle but would pull a drifter vane out ok.
Be ok for barbel I would think.
I’ll have a look for the carbon one.
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- Jack Pike
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Re: Making a centerpin reel
Found it.
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Re: Making a centerpin reel
Bucks Andy wrote: ↑Tue Mar 05 2024 20:33 -Both of those machines are well built and will last another 35 years. If you bought a brand new XYZ mill these days, it's the exact same frame as an old Bridgeport. Quality always lasts.Stewlaws wrote: ↑Tue Mar 05 2024 19:55 -It was turned on a 35 year old myford lathe and drilled on an equally old Bridgeport mill.Bucks Andy wrote: ↑Tue Mar 05 2024 19:50 -Nicely done Andy, was this a garden shed build with a small lathe or do you have access to work related shop? I admire anyone who can manufacture, Alun MilLyard is a guy who can work magic on a lathe.Stewlaws wrote: ↑Tue Mar 05 2024 19:02 -It was made up as I went along. There are 4 bearings at the top of the spool and 4 at the bottom all at 90 degrees.Was this made against a set of plans or off the hoof? Interesting design, wondering why the bearings sit at 180d as opposed to 90d for balancing and equilibrium ? Nice work, how long will it 'bat' for when spun?
It spins ok. Not as good as a reel with a pin in the middle but would pull a drifter vane out ok.
Be ok for barbel I would think.
I’ll have a look for the carbon one.
I learned to turn using old Hardinge lathes. Another solid machine.
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- Barbel
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Re: Making a centerpin reel
Bucks Andy wrote: ↑Tue Mar 05 2024 20:40 -Were these turned down then Andy? I was always in the mind that Carbon fibre was constructed in moulds/vacuums and ovens? (Neighbour's son does bespoke bike wheels for race teams-Motorcycles)Found it.
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Re: Making a centerpin reel
Stewlaws wrote: ↑Mon Mar 11 2024 12:45 -They were cut out of 6mm plate.Bucks Andy wrote: ↑Tue Mar 05 2024 20:40 -Were these turned down then Andy? I was always in the mind that Carbon fibre was constructed in moulds/vacuums and ovens? (Neighbour's son does bespoke bike wheels for race teams-Motorcycles)Found it.