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bencarvosso wrote: Fri Apr 19 2024 11:15 -
I just got a brief WhatsApp off him.

Will try and get more info when I see him

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Wow that's some growth rate . I can't see how a wild fish can attain that size without being a very predatory.
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fergie68 wrote: Fri Apr 19 2024 13:45 -
bencarvosso wrote: Fri Apr 19 2024 11:15 -
I just got a brief WhatsApp off him.

Will try and get more info when I see him

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Wow that's some growth rate . I can't see how a wild fish can attain that size without being a very predatory.
I agree, outrageous growth. I think possibly the fish was predatory but genetically not ferox. Its something I don't know enough about to be honest. Must do some reading
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Bloody hell, that is some growth rate. I'd read a comment from someone in IFI years ago about the big Corrib trout having a high growth rate and a relatively short lifespan (10-12 years), but I did'nt think trout could grow that fast :eek: .
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BillCollins wrote: Fri Apr 19 2024 16:03 -
Bloody hell, that is some growth rate. I'd read a comment from someone in IFI years ago about the big Corrib trout having a high growth rate and a relatively short lifespan (10-12 years), but I did'nt think trout could grow that fast :eek: .
I'm sure there was a 21lb trout found dead in the outflowing river at Loch Awe was 6 years old mate.
Total eating machines when they get going.
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bencarvosso wrote: Fri Apr 19 2024 15:40 -
fergie68 wrote: Fri Apr 19 2024 13:45 -
bencarvosso wrote: Fri Apr 19 2024 11:15 -
I just got a brief WhatsApp off him.

Will try and get more info when I see him

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Wow that's some growth rate . I can't see how a wild fish can attain that size without being a very predatory.
I agree, outrageous growth. I think possibly the fish was predatory but genetically not ferox. Its something I don't know enough about to be honest. Must do some reading

Whoever done that will have been using a certain genetic marker to classify these fish.
Not all the scientists agree with that technique.
It might actually be on that other thread. ?
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The brown trout is a very plastic species. It exists in several forms such as the sea trout. All are Salmo trutta. One species. There are variations which are all a function of the environment it lives in. A 15 lb brown that lives under a trout cage is one variety of one species. A dedicated predator or Ferox is another. A Gillaro in N Ireland is another. The 11 I i had off of Corrib years ago was simply a beautiful fish!!
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Neville Fickling wrote: Mon Apr 22 2024 08:08 -
The brown trout is a very plastic species. It exists in several forms such as the sea trout. All are Salmo trutta. One species. There are variations which are all a function of the environment it lives in. A 15 lb brown that lives under a trout cage is one variety of one species. A dedicated predator or Ferox is another. A Gillaro in N Ireland is another. The 11 I i had off of Corrib years ago was simply a beautiful fish!!
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Heres one from yesterday.
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fergie68 wrote: Mon Apr 22 2024 10:54 -
Heres one from yesterday.

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fergie68 wrote: Sat Apr 13 2024 21:06 -
Fascinating that was. Good post.
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fergie68 wrote: Fri Apr 19 2024 16:42 -
bencarvosso wrote: Fri Apr 19 2024 15:40 -
fergie68 wrote: Fri Apr 19 2024 13:45 -
bencarvosso wrote: Fri Apr 19 2024 11:15 -
I just got a brief WhatsApp off him.

Will try and get more info when I see him

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Wow that's some growth rate . I can't see how a wild fish can attain that size without being a very predatory.
I agree, outrageous growth. I think possibly the fish was predatory but genetically not ferox. Its something I don't know enough about to be honest. Must do some reading

Whoever done that will have been using a certain genetic marker to classify these fish.
Not all the scientists agree with that technique.
It might actually be on that other thread. ?
It is, Fergie :thumbs:
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fergie68 wrote: Mon Apr 22 2024 10:54 -
Heres one from yesterday.

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Lovely that Fergie mate. :cool: :thumbs:
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A few more last week. All I managed was a small pike and a 2.5lb seatrout
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fergie68 wrote: Fri May 03 2024 19:54 -
A few more last week. All I managed was a small pike and a 2.5lb seatrout

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fergie68 wrote: Fri May 03 2024 19:54 -
A few more last week. All I managed was a small pike and a 2.5lb seatrout

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Cracking stuff Fergie, what’s the tactics the now? Do u stay deep with down riggers? Or just lures or real dead’s n skull caps?
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Cheers Al right now its a bit of a mix riggers and flatlined but all lures. Not had a touch on my beautiful baits this year. 😔
Some seasons are just like that. I'm struggling this season only had one and it's not for want of trying . 😩
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fergie68 wrote: Sat May 04 2024 19:55 -
Cheers Al right now its a bit of a mix riggers and flatlined but all lures. Not had a touch on my beautiful baits this year. 😔
Some seasons are just like that. I'm struggling this season only had one and it's not for want of trying . 😩
Your maybe saving it for a real biggun Fergie :thumbs:
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f****n hope so mate.
Just one of those seasons im netting other peoples fish.
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Not catching happens to everyone. When you fish seriously it is not a load of fun. I look at it this way when I am struggling. I am doing my best. I am not poncing off of someone else. No one will cry or die if I never catch another fish
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Neville Fickling wrote: Sun May 05 2024 19:26 -
Not catching happens to everyone. When you fish seriously it is not a load of fun. I look at it this way when I am struggling. I am doing my best. I am not poncing off of someone else. No one will cry or die if I never catch another fish
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I try and look at it that every blank puts me a few hrs closer to my next fish.
I'm spoiled though as I usually catch . :roll:
Ferox trolling is definitely a matter of putting the hrs in.
Once you know the how's and the Where's its all about the hrs on the water.

I'm out tomorrow it's a Bank Holiday and I swore I'd never fish another one as the jet skis and speed boats can make for a stressful day's fishing.
But what the hell. I will be on here tomorrow night bleating about them :boing:
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I am Not ferox fishing at the moment but I have caught one on a static dead and it was 11 lb. That was years ago I might add In over 30 years of pike fishing in the west of Ireland I have only had one other and that was 5 lb. I had a trolled small mack chopped in half which I think was a trout. In the uk the odd big trout have turned up from the reservoirs but these are often big browns that live under the cages. Fish to 12 lb but they are not the same as the wild ones!!!
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fergie68 wrote: Sun May 05 2024 21:09 -
Neville Fickling wrote: Sun May 05 2024 19:26 -
Not catching happens to everyone. When you fish seriously it is not a load of fun. I look at it this way when I am struggling. I am doing my best. I am not poncing off of someone else. No one will cry or die if I never catch another fish
Cheers Nev 👍🏻
I try and look at it that every blank puts me a few hrs closer to my next fish.
I'm spoiled though as I usually catch . :roll:
Ferox trolling is definitely a matter of putting the hrs in.
Once you know the how's and the Where's its all about the hrs on the water.

I'm out tomorrow it's a Bank Holiday and I swore I'd never fish another one as the jet skis and speed boats can make for a stressful day's fishing.
But what the hell. I will be on here tomorrow night bleating about them :boing:
"I try and look at it that every blank puts me a few hrs closer to my next fish."

An old mate and I used to have the same mentality on the upper Ouse for barbel in the 90s. :dizzy:

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Aye that’s how I look at it to, I don’t mind the odd blank but constantly blanking isn’t enjoyable but necessary to get among decent fish on hard waters, keep us posted Fergie! At least the water u fish has some great scenery and odd pike to break it up the blanks :thumbs:
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Normal service has resumed. :roll:
8lb 5oz
We also had 4 pike up to 15lbs .

And only a few jetskis . :thumbs:
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fergie68 wrote: Mon May 06 2024 21:19 -
Normal service has resumed. :roll:
8lb 5oz
We also had 4 pike up to 15lbs .

And only a few jetskis . :thumbs:

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fergie68 wrote: Mon May 06 2024 21:19 -
Normal service has resumed. :roll:
8lb 5oz
We also had 4 pike up to 15lbs .

And only a few jetskis . :thumbs:

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Brilliant sesh Fergie! That ones like a bar of gold! :cool:
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Nice :thumbs: .......... the Pike of course !!!!
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Steve Le maitre wrote: Tue May 07 2024 20:11 -
Nice :thumbs: .......... the Pike of course !!!!
Steve, you have done a few hours trolling on big waters, I am assuming that you will have had a few encounters with large trout in your time ?

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I've had about 6 in total Will, the best one 9 lb so not the ones you're searching for !!
You'd need three lifetimes and that's assuming they are even present.
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Steve Le maitre wrote: Wed May 08 2024 06:27 -
I've had about 6 in total Will, the best one 9 lb so not the ones you're searching for !!
You'd need three lifetimes and that's assuming they are even present.
Well they certainly are present Steve, just need a big dollop of luck to speed the job up a bit :laughs: .
I am a relatively new crusader to be fair, we only started fishing for them about 15 years ago now, we never ever picked one up when piking though.
Going to try a new (to me) method next week, just to keep things interesting.

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